The Origins of Wokeness

>>crbela+(OP)
His accounting for what attracts people to wokeness is incomplete. Certainly there are prigs in the mix, but for most, I think it's that wokeness, as he defines it, is often tightly coupled with good things, like sexual harassment being taken more seriously. The challenge, then, is how we can do things like take sexual harassment more seriously without also folding that effort into an ideology with vague expansive definitions that lend themselves to actual prigs.

>>krosae+fA
> wokeness, as he defines it, is often tightly coupled with good things, like sexual harassment being taken more seriously.

I'm not sure that's true. Wokeness doesn't focus on actual harassment; it focuses on accusations of harassment, with a definition of "harassment" that is highly subjective and doesn't necessarily correlate very well with actual harassment.

> how we can do things like take sexual harassment more seriously

The problem is not that we need to take, for example, sexual harassment "more seriously". The problem is how to reduce how often actual sexual harassment happens. "Taking it more seriously" is a very vague and ineffective way to do that.

>>pdonis+pE

    The problem is how to reduce how often actual 
    sexual harassment happens. "Taking it more 
    seriously" is a very vague and ineffective 
    way to do that.

Why do you perceive some sort of conflict or paradox between "taking it more seriously" and coming up with an effective way to prevent it?

I mean, that is "taking it more seriously."

    a definition of "harassment" that is highly 
    subjective and doesn't necessarily correlate 
    very well with actual harassment.

I swear, this whole topic is just an ouroboros of people talking over each other about vaguely defined terms.

You complain that "wokeness" has a "highly subjective" definition of harassment that "doesn't necessarily correlate well" with reality.

"Wokeness" itself is an incredibly vague and amorphous term, primarily wielded by those who oppose it. It barely exists except in the minds of its opponents, and certainly does not have some kind of governing body or like, official position on harassment or anything else.

If you feel that some specific person or institution is doing a shitty job of addressing harassment, or if you have some specific ideas of your own, those would be great things to bring to the table.

But accusing a vague and amorophous thing about being too vague and amorphous about another thing is... man, please, stop.

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