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1. yapyap+nd1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 18:44:52
>>crbela+(OP)
I think the word “woke” means very different things to some people.

As an example I think people from the American political left to somewhere(?) in the middle see it as what it has been introduced as, that being looking past the status quo and instead looking at your own values, i.e. the morality of homelessness and not having a disdain for them but empathy for them instead.

and then on the other side it feels like the people on the American political right see it as what this website describes it as “ A self-righteously moralistic person who behaves as if superior to others.”

I think the divide has originated from taking unlikeable behaviour and labeling that as ‘woke’ (in bad faith of course) and some people have just bonded to that definition so much that they see it as that.

At least that’s what I’ve noticed online over the past few (bonkers) years

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2. Larrik+Su1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 19:50:30
>>yapyap+nd1
Anyone using the term woke in 2025 is using the term in bad faith and to create the bogeyman you describe.

It's actually hard to find the time when anyone on the left actually used it. Seems like it was a little under a year and the term was dropped to be more specific actions.

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3. diggan+AB1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 20:16:44
>>Larrik+Su1
Reading and understanding the article beyond the title, it's just a term that used to be called something else before, and will be called something else in the future. I think you're focusing too much on the actual word, rather than the "movement", which is what pg's article is really about.
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4. Larrik+jE1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 20:26:44
>>diggan+AB1
The point is that anyone using the term woke is using it in bad faith or if they think they are not using it offensively then it's poorly researched.
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5. diggan+NG1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 20:34:24
>>Larrik+jE1
So anyone discussing/posting thoughts about "woke" and "wokeness" are using it in bad faith? Would it matter if the person puts a positive or negative spin on it, or are some topics just straight up "no no" to discuss?

Seems like we should aim to critique the content of articles, not just critique the usage of a single word. But you do you.

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