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1. david-+BL[view] [source] 2024-12-28 12:19:19
>>throwu+(OP)
The context in which this happened matters a lot.

There have been tensions between the FIDE organization and top players like Carlsen since the latter have been promoting an alternative chess organization around Freestyle chess (aka Chesss960), which has slightly different rules.

I.e. this is less about "dress code enforcement" and it is more about "Carlsen is fed up with the FIDE organization in general".

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2. viking+cc1[view] [source] 2024-12-28 16:36:23
>>david-+BL
Just to clarify on the facts, as gathered from reddit threads:

He wasn't trying to protest the dress code or make a scene, it wasn't on his mind at all. He had been out for an appearance with a sponsor during a break, then came back to the venue for the next round, and didn't notice that he was wearing jeans and it didn't cross his mind that that would be a violation.

Then he was told to change, and there wasn't enough time for him to go do that before the upcoming round. He thought he was told he could do it either after that round or for the next day, but then was told he would be excluded from that round, and at that point he said f--- it and withdrew entirely.

The controversy was about exactly how the penalty is imposed. The rule is a fine for the first violation and disqualification for multiple. It wasn't clear if his appearance for the day would count as one violation (so he could just incur the fine and wear correct clothing tomorrow), or if each round would be a separate violation. It also wasn't clear if he could play while in violation or would be excluded from each round until he changed. Precedent from other events wasn't clear for either of these.

The headline of "disqualified" is wrong and did not happen - he chose to withdraw.

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3. afro88+802[view] [source] 2024-12-28 22:14:35
>>viking+cc1
This is silly. Surely a GM knows the rules. You can't say the facts are he wasn't doing it in protest or wasn't trying to make a scene.

The facts are he violated the dress code rule and then withdrew when it was enforced. He then mentioned his FIDE alternative in the ensuing press coverage.

Edit: also, on paper, him attending a sponsor event and then violating a rule at the competition because he "didn't have time to change" speaks volumes about his priorities.

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4. sobell+qi2[view] [source] 2024-12-29 00:59:14
>>afro88+802
The rules themselves are silly. Jeans get tagged as a violation but you can wear a jacket that looks as if it belongs in NASCAR (i.e. every square inch belongs to a sponsor) and that flies. Looking at pictures from the event, Magnus looked fine.

I find it weird to witness all the drama, pomp, and circumstance around the professional chess scene. It is a board game. I couldn't care less if they decided to play pool-side with swimming trunks and flip-flops.

Magnus' priorities are clearly that he's won everything up for grabs and plays for fun. He doesn't need to worry about money nor rules set by a sport federation stuck about half a century in the past. If only the rest of us were so free!

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5. afro88+av2[view] [source] 2024-12-29 03:20:27
>>sobell+qi2
I didn't say it, but I agree the rules are silly. However, they are what they are.

What I was saying is that I think Magnus was protesting, and doing it as a publicity stunt. He didn't forget anything. He didn't expect to be given a pass.

And FIDE also weren't being dicks by enforcing the current rules.

Attending corporate sponsorship events sounds soul crushing for someone so free, not fun. His priority is keeping his sponsors happy as he tries to fire up his new thing.

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