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1. superk+55[view] [source] 2024-12-16 17:48:34
>>buro9+(OP)
People seem to forget that the more legislation there is around something the more it is only feasible to do if you are a corporate person. Human persons just don't have the same rights or protections from liabilty.
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2. mattig+O6[view] [source] 2024-12-16 17:57:37
>>superk+55
It's not like there are laws that are more lenient with non-profits or with tiny companies right?
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3. superk+f7[view] [source] 2024-12-16 17:59:37
>>mattig+O6
The EU's digital markets act is one that got that right and I love it. But it's the exception to the rule. The vast majority of such laws are for the benefit of the corporations themselves, despite any ostensible purposes. And this is definitely in that latter category.
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4. Vespas+j9[view] [source] 2024-12-16 18:12:23
>>superk+f7
Also a lot of other EU regulations do the same.

Sometimes it's explicitly mentioned but oftentimes it's behind "appropriate and proportionate measures"

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5. superk+na[view] [source] 2024-12-16 18:19:51
>>Vespas+j9
But most don't. GDPR for example. It's pretty wack that random people coming to my neighborhood BBQ can demand I give them the backyard surveillance camera recording or force me to delete it (a metaphor for a personal website logs). Such makes perfect sense for a corporation but none when applied to a human person and context.

We should make the laws for our digital spaces for human person use cases first, not corporate person use cases. Even if it's in the sense of trying to protect humans from corporations.

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6. hyperm+ug[view] [source] 2024-12-16 18:57:13
>>superk+na
Good news:

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A...

2. This Regulation does not apply to the processing of personal data: (c) by a natural person in the course of a purely personal or household activity;

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7. graeme+pl[view] [source] 2024-12-16 19:24:17
>>hyperm+ug
That does not include security cameras: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/domestic-cctv-usi...
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8. hyperm+eq[view] [source] 2024-12-16 19:52:55
>>graeme+pl
From that link:

  If your CCTV system captures images of people outside the boundary of your private domestic property...
Most European countries have laws for recording spaces not your own. They typically predate the GDPR by decades. AFAIK, they are not harmonized, except for a tiny bit by the GDPR.

If I understand it well, this is a big difference between the USA where you can mostly record the public space and create databases of what everyone does in public. IN Europe (even outside the EU), there is a basic expectation of privacy even in public spaces. You are allowed to make short term recordings, do journalism, and have random people accidentally wander in and out of your recording. Explicitly targetting specific people or long-term recording is somewhere between frowned upon to flat out illegal.

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