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1. philip+b8[view] [source] 2024-12-02 14:56:36
>>sebg+(OP)
Tim Wendelboe (perhaps the greatest coffee roaster) has been talking about this on his latest Q&A podcast. A rigmarole for exports plus climate change are causing issues.

He does a two-episode deep dive into the Kenyan coffee market here, which is worth a listen: https://timwendelboe.no/2024/03/inside-kenyas-coffee-market-...

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2. pvg+Pb[view] [source] 2024-12-02 15:18:20
>>philip+b8
I know nothing about coffee roasting but the level of wankery on that site is an absolute delight. Makes me wonder if this is deliberate

https://timwendelboe.no/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/T_Wendelb...

https://www.gottahaverockandroll.com/ItemImages/000025/jul18...

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3. goosej+uw[view] [source] 2024-12-02 17:28:35
>>pvg+Pb
Of all the speciality foods, wine is the most pretentious. Coffee isn't far behind.
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4. rozap+jN[view] [source] 2024-12-02 19:11:58
>>goosej+uw
Beer is close. The essay written on the side of a floodland bottle is really a sight to behold in the wankery domain.
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5. pvg+FS[view] [source] 2024-12-02 19:49:52
>>rozap+jN
An argument can be made for beer being above, perhaps even the peak. Unlike coffee or wine, beerwankers took something that didn't really have a high-end and then made it up. They created their own wanktopic! And for this achievement, they get comparatively little of their due social opprobrium - 'homebrew' has come to connote scrappy and hip even though it's transparent wankery of the highest order.
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6. jujube+MY[view] [source] 2024-12-02 20:26:19
>>pvg+FS
"homebrew" just means you made it yourself. nothing to do with snobbery.
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7. Eleven+Z31[view] [source] 2024-12-02 21:05:24
>>jujube+MY
I'm not a linguist but I think this bit of jargon leaked into tech from ham radio, which is old enough that "homebrew" (in the sense of building your own radio set from components) referred to a still-earlier time when people actually did commonly brew their own beer at home. "homespun" retains a similar meaning in general usage.
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8. jujube+471[view] [source] 2024-12-02 21:24:48
>>Eleven+Z31
Is beer part of "tech" now?

homebrew has a pretty straightforward meaning... beer you brewed at home. It's actually legally defined that way too

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9. Eleven+Ga1[view] [source] 2024-12-02 21:50:11
>>jujube+471
Maybe I've misunderstood pvg upthread but I assumed "'homebrew' has come to connote scrappy and hip" was about IT/tech because it doesn't have that connotation in the actual context of beer, at least to my knowledge.
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10. pvg+of1[view] [source] 2024-12-02 22:32:31
>>Eleven+Ga1
No, you had it right - e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homebrew_Computer_Club which, as you say, is probably a borrowing from older tech nerd communities.
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11. jujube+LP3[view] [source] 2024-12-03 20:34:57
>>pvg+of1
The "homebrew computer club" made their own computers. It wasn't about being scrappy or hip, but just a cooler way of saying "homemade"
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12. pvg+oH6[view] [source] 2024-12-04 21:04:57
>>jujube+LP3
You should probably check out the denotation of 'connotation'
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13. jujube+uPl[view] [source] 2024-12-10 19:07:16
>>pvg+oH6
You should probably check out "being a pedantic douche" -- oh wait, you already did.
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