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1. MKober+1f[view] [source] 2024-12-02 15:40:05
>>sebg+(OP)
This was such a fascinating read—it really resonated with me. A few years ago, my girlfriend and I started a small coffee shop in Hanoi as a fun side project, and I was struck by the parallels between Vietnam's coffee history and the issues you outline here about Kenya.

Vietnam, like Kenya, emerged from a coffee industry shaped by colonial-era inequities. Yet through reforms, robust state support for smallholder farmers, and a focus on infrastructure, Vietnam has positioned itself as a global coffee powerhouse. While the initial focus on robusta was quantity-driven, there’s now a shift toward quality, which is helping Vietnamese coffee expand into new markets.

Kenya’s situation feels similar yet distinct. It has an unparalleled coffee heritage, and with thoughtful reforms—empowering smallholders, encouraging direct trade, and finding the right balance between quality and disease-resistant hybrids—it could reclaim its standing on the global stage.

The article beautifully captures the systemic challenges and the hope for transformation. I really believe Kenya’s coffee can rise again, stronger and fairer, just as Vietnam is starting to do. It’s inspiring to see how coffee connects people and places across the world in such unique ways!

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2. paulet+Xi[view] [source] 2024-12-02 16:03:21
>>MKober+1f
> A few years ago, my girlfriend and I started a small coffee shop in Hanoi as a fun side project

Did it end up being the fun side project you expected?

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3. dyausp+el[view] [source] 2024-12-02 16:15:26
>>paulet+Xi
Having done something similar in India I can say it definitely was fun. What makes it fun is there are next to no regulations so you can plop down in a place one day and just sell food.
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4. 9dev+zK[view] [source] 2024-12-02 18:57:01
>>dyausp+el
Hah, try that in Germany. You shouldn’t even be giving food a sideways glance without your permits at hand. And don’t you dare to even consider selling beer alongside your snacks.
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5. navaed+mc2[view] [source] 2024-12-03 10:28:33
>>9dev+zK
Hah, try that in New York! I looked in to getting a coffee cart to use in peak hours because I had a passion for how I wanted the cart to look and saw the crazy lines outside Starbucks in the AM.

- 20 year wait for a cart permit. _ Shady black market license resales from veterans (who have priority access to licenses - which is great in theory) - If you use water you need a ‘food’ license - Illegal to store your cart anywhere but a licensed depo that charges exhorbitant - very high penalties for unlicensed distribution

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