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>>veggie+(OP)
3b is is API-only so you won’t be able to run it on-device, which is the killer app for these smaller edge models.

I’m not opposed to licensing but “email us for a license” is a bad sign for indie developers, in my experience.

8b weights are here https://huggingface.co/mistralai/Ministral-8B-Instruct-2410

Commercial entities aren’t permitted to use or distribute 8b weights - from the agreement (which states research purposes only):

"Research Purposes": means any use of a Mistral Model, Derivative, or Output that is solely for (a) personal, scientific or academic research, and (b) for non-profit and non-commercial purposes, and not directly or indirectly connected to any commercial activities or business operations. For illustration purposes, Research Purposes does not include (1) any usage of the Mistral Model, Derivative or Output by individuals or contractors employed in or engaged by companies in the context of (a) their daily tasks, or (b) any activity (including but not limited to any testing or proof-of-concept) that is intended to generate revenue, nor (2) any Distribution by a commercial entity of the Mistral Model, Derivative or Output whether in return for payment or free of charge, in any medium or form, including but not limited to through a hosted or managed service (e.g. SaaS, cloud instances, etc.), or behind a software layer.

>>ed+qn
> I’m not opposed to licensing but “email us for a license” is a bad sign for indie developers, in my experience.

At least they're not claiming it's Open Source / Open Weights, kind of happy about that, as other companies didn't get the memo that lying/misleading about stuff like that is bad.

>>diggan+Ns
Yeah, a real silver-lining on the API-only access for a model that is intentionally designed for edge devices. As a user I honestly only care about the weights being open - I'm not going to reimpliment their training code and I don't need or want redistributed training data that both already exists elsewhere. There is no benefit, for my uses, to having an "open source" model when I could have weights and finetunes instead.

There's nothing to be happy about when businesses try to wall-off a feature to make you salivate over it more. You're within your right to nitpick licensing differences, but unless everyone gets government-subsidized H100s in their garage I don't think the code will be of use to anyone except moneyed competitors that want to undermine foundational work.