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1. mlsu+wN1[view] [source] 2024-09-27 04:51:53
>>jimbob+(OP)
Sports gambling, like all gambling, ruins lives. It's certainly worth having the discussion about whether people should be able to run a train through their life and the lives of their families via app.

But a much easier argument against sports betting is that it ruins the sports. Players throw. They get good at subtly cheating. The gambling apparatus latches itself to the sport, to the teams and players, the umpires and judges, the sporting organizations. With this much money on the line, it's not a matter of if but when games are thrown, cheated -- the bigger the game, the bigger the incentive. It's even easier now because of the amount of side/parlay betting that is available. It exhausts the spirit of competition.

Sports gambling is diametrically opposed to sport itself.

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2. jdietr+182[view] [source] 2024-09-27 08:18:44
>>mlsu+wN1
Sports gambling has been legal in the UK since 1960. Gambling wasn't seriously problematic in this country until 2005, when regulations were substantially liberalised. Pre-2005, sports betting was something that old men did in dingy backstreet shops; post-2005, it became a widespread social phenomenon, turbocharged by advertising and the growing influence and accessibility of the internet.

There's a false dichotomy between prohibition and laissez-faire, which the US seems particularly prone to. You've seen similar issues with the decriminalisation of cannabis, where many states seem to have switched abruptly from criminalisation to a fully-fledged commercial market. There is a broad spectrum of other options in between those points that tend to be under-discussed.

You can ban gambling advertising, as Italy did in 2019. You can set limits on maximum stakes or impose regulations to make gambling products less attractive to new customers and less risky for problem gamblers. You can have a single state-controlled parimutuel operator. Gambling does cause harm - whether it's legal or not - but it is within the purview of legislators to create a gambling market in which harm reduction is the main priority.

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3. BobAli+e13[view] [source] 2024-09-27 14:39:30
>>jdietr+182
Every state is supposed to be a "laboratory" of democracy, but we really screwed the pooch with cannabis legalization. At least one state should have gone the way with absolutely zero marketing allowed (like tobacco currently is), and all containers should be in standardized, sterile, black & white containers, with only the name & description of the product, and big warnings describing the dangers (like cigarette packs in Australia).

24 legalized states, and not one chose this approach which is a shame.

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4. olyjoh+zF4[view] [source] 2024-09-28 02:27:30
>>BobAli+e13
They're not cigarettes. Nobody is sitting down and smoking 40 joints a day. What serious dangers are there besides the fact that you might eat the entire bag of Doritos while watching Planet Earth?
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5. alan-c+Fc5[view] [source] 2024-09-28 11:09:49
>>olyjoh+zF4
The important context is that life is short, just seventy years, and has stages, your early twenties are a magical time. Losing your ambition and wasting your early twenties are a subtle danger, but nevertheless a serious danger.
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6. lotsof+ep5[view] [source] 2024-09-28 13:54:06
>>alan-c+Fc5
One of the more ridiculous assertions I have seen, as if cannabis causes people to lose ambitions, any more than a million other things that can happen in society.

You know, like wage stagnation in the face of skyrocketing real estate costs.

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