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1. Malidi+UP[view] [source] 2024-08-27 16:08:48
>>southe+(OP)
In Pavel's interview with Tucker Carlson, he mentions how he (VK) met with Zuckerberg, and he told them new features they were planning. And Zuck nicked them all.

Zuck is on a major PR campaign drive, I would not trust a word he says.

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2. drdaem+xl1[view] [source] 2024-08-27 18:29:43
>>Malidi+UP
> In Pavel's interview with Tucker Carlson

He also said that he doesn't visit Russia anymore, yet a recent FSB leak indicates that he was frequenting there. And before that he heavily marketed Telegram as ad-free forever. And before that there were quite weird populist PR tactics when professional cryptographers pointed out Telegram's crypto is a mess.

YMMV, but I wouldn't trust a single word from this guy.

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3. jaykru+kt1[view] [source] 2024-08-27 19:05:05
>>drdaem+xl1
> Telegram's crypto is a mess

Telegram's crypto may be weird, as the professional cryptographers you allude to have pointed out; I don't know, not being a cryptography expert. But MTProto 2.0 has been shown to enjoy many nice security properties (including a version of forward secrecy, though one afaik not as good as that enjoyed by Signal): formal proofs available here https://github.com/miculan/telegram-mtproto2-verification/tr... and some peer reviewed papers describing the formal verification effort are linked to there as well. Considering that I think calling Telegram's crypto "a mess" is misleading.

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4. ezst+mF2[view] [source] 2024-08-28 05:05:30
>>jaykru+kt1
The characteristics of MTProto are barely relevant when it is not used in the real world: group chats cannot be encrypted with it, 1:1 chats have caveats like terrible UX and the need for both parties to be online to initiate a session.
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