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1. andy_p+ex[view] [source] 2024-08-27 14:27:46
>>southe+(OP)
I wonder if this is coming up just before the election because of the Harris campaign’s suggested policy of capital gains tax on unrealised gains for people who have over $100m in assets? I think this is a great idea personally given what these people are doing to avoid paying tax including taking out loans against their own share portfolios. Worth thinking about what people are willing to do to not pay billions of dollars worth of taxes.
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2. _heimd+Ry[view] [source] 2024-08-27 14:37:32
>>andy_p+ex
I'd much prefer seeing us close up the tax loop holes than create an even more complex system.

Taxing unrealized gains will be extremely complex, and given that they aren't allowing us to deduct unrealized losses its a pretty shitty setup for the taxpayer.

We need to drastically simplify our tax code rather than further increase its complexity.

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3. ragnes+K51[view] [source] 2024-08-27 17:13:05
>>_heimd+Ry
> Taxing unrealized gains will be extremely complex, and given that they aren't allowing us to deduct unrealized losses its a pretty shitty setup for the taxpayer.

I pay taxes on the unrealized gains of my house appreciating in value over the years.

I'm not arguing one way or the other about whether various wealth tax ideas are good. But, I don't believe that the concept is as infeasible as some are making it out to be when it's been happening with property taxes for a very long time.

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4. orange+0c1[view] [source] 2024-08-27 17:44:40
>>ragnes+K51
I pay taxes on the unrealized gains of my house appreciating in value over the years.

You pay taxes on the assessed value of your house. It doesn't matter what you paid for it, or how much equity you have in it. It's more of a use tax than a capital gains or wealth tax.

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5. ragnes+po1[view] [source] 2024-08-27 18:43:57
>>orange+0c1
That's a fair point. It's definitely pretty different from an unrealized capital gain because, like you said, it's not about your net gain or loss on the house. But, I'd still say that it's practically similar enough to a wealth tax precisely because it's a tax based only on the current value of the thing that I own.

Also, just to add to the above discussion, it's even worse in practice than a tax on unrealized gains because I'll have to pay the same amount of tax every year if my house stays the same value. If it were a tax on the unrealized "gains" of my house, I'd pay $0 if it stayed the same value. And if the value of my house decreases, I'll still have to pay more than $0 in property tax, whereas a capital loss would mean I would pay at most $0.

So, I think I still stand by my sentiment that property taxes are more burdensome than a tax on unrealized capital gains.

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