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1. greent+b4[view] [source] 2024-08-27 10:49:04
>>southe+(OP)
Facebook, Instagram, etc. moderating content isn't a free speech issue. They are just glorified bulletin boards. They try to raise everyone's sense of their importance by claiming it to be a free speech issue, but they are awful garbage and the sooner everyone realizes the better for society.
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2. mandma+i6[view] [source] 2024-08-27 11:13:22
>>greent+b4
We're talking about nearly 200 million posts, at least, having been wiped and suppressed [0]. Many of these were both 100% true and highly important. The effects of their suppression are still felt to this day; in broken minds, broken relationships, destroyed careers, a stunted generation, and unnecessary excess deaths. Serious and brave academics were threatened and had their voices stilled.

Describing Zuck's censorship of nearly 200 million posts on Facebook alone as "moderating content" is like calling a tsunami "a bit of rain". It's irresponsible.

Calling a platform with 3 billion monthly users a "glorified bulletin board" doesn't sound very credible to me either.

0 - https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1170

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3. greent+5b[view] [source] 2024-08-27 11:53:37
>>mandma+i6
Why would the number of posts matter? I don't care if it was 200 or 200 billion. Nothing in my original comment changes. Same for number of users. These are private platforms, not public spaces. They are not open. They are not free. They use the lie that they have anything to do with free speech as a marketing tool. Stop falling for it.
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4. mandma+he[view] [source] 2024-08-27 12:23:05
>>greent+5b
> Why would the number of posts matter?

Scale matters. Everyone on HN knows this.

Why would the Biden Admin have a right to lean on FB to censor true and important information?

"We need you to censor this false [read: true] information from your 3 billion users, because reasons" - not a very defensible position.

By the way, I've advocated for tearing Meta apart and putting it in global public ownership for years, partly because of their acceptance of over-censorship. There's such a thing as public responsibility, and Meta has repeatedly failed. I said so here, just yesterday.

I'm 100% fine with Meta and others censoring some things: drug sales, scams (I wish they would!), and worse.

But censoring scientists trying to say true things of a devastating pandemic, or minimize the harms from terrible policy? Censoring discussion of stories that politicians find embarrassing? Censoring the word "Zionist"??!! That's indefensible.

Again, there's a basic responsibility there; whether enshrined in law or not, and whether the law is enforced or not. Allowing a platform used by nearly half all people on Earth to warp our collective understanding of issues up to and including war, plague, genocide and famine is unacceptable, whether by government "request" or not.

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5. greent+Vf[view] [source] 2024-08-27 12:35:54
>>mandma+he
People on HN know scale matters for $$$$. Scale doesn't matter for rights. Again, these companies are using your outrage as a marketing tool. They are not, never have been and never will be open. It's not just Meta. Twitter/X is the same. They are all the same.
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