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>>surpri+(OP)
I’m sitting in an electric car in a large Chinese city right now. Looking around I count 7/10 cars are electric, easily recognizable by green license plates, all from brands I’ve never seen in the US. The electric cars are cheap and I don’t see any evidence that they are poor quality. It feels like there’s absolutely something transformative happening here which the US is missing out on.

>>canjob+RK1
This level of production at a high level of quality also means military capability too. They can build way more drones, bombs , whatever at scale now.

>>bamboo+kN1
Ok? Weirdly off topic comment.

>>Gigach+hO1
Not really honestly. It is a reality that falling behind manufacturing means America also becomes less of a military powerhouse. Something that I’m genuinely happy about anyway.

>>aaomid+BO1
> America also becomes less of a military powerhouse. Something that I’m genuinely happy about

Why so? Sure, it would be a nice world if no country was a military powerhouse, but that's not the world we live in. If the choice is between the US or China being the military powerhouse, why would you pick China?

>>pdonis+Kz2
Of course in practice there’ll always be war and militaries. It’s not about that, it’s about how just and fit to rule is the guy with the longest stick.

There are plenty of us who will be forever bitter about this period in history of US dominance. You may not have noticed from your garden in Virginia, but entire countries have been bombed to rubbles and and entire populations killed or forced to migrate. Still continuing too. In that sense, we’d much prefer actually good and just people ruling the world, not US or Russia or China etc.

Edit: Fix ambiguity.

>>Aerbil+wn3
> it’s about how just and fit to rule is the guy with the longest stick.

And again, if the choices are the US or China, why would you consider China to be more "just and fit to rule"?

> your garden in Virginia

I don't live in Virginia and I don't have a garden.

> entire countries have been bombed to rubbles and and entire populations killed or forced to migrate

So you think the US has done more of this than China? Or than other countries? What are you basing that on?

> we’d much prefer actually good and just people ruling the world

What if there aren't any? If you don't think the US makes the grade, who do you think does? Anyone?

>>pdonis+Mn3
Sorry, it’s really funny, I just realized my sentence was grammatically ambiguous. Now edited to clarify. Intended meaning was neither the US nor China nor Russia make just and good rulers, judging by what they currently do in their current spheres of influence.

>> your garden in Virginia

> I don't live in Virginia and I don't have a garden.

It’s a figure of speech, representing stereotypical upper middle class American.

> If you don't think the US makes the grade, who do you think does? Anyone?

People who actually let others live in peace and harmony, people who are guided by a strong set of morals. If you think you’re free to do whatever, you’ll do whatever. If you think you’re free to do whatever when others aren’t watching, you’ll do whatever when others aren’t watching. Muslims think neither and historically they have a proven track record of compassionate ruling, as opposed to the neo-feudalistic dog eat dog world we live in which is really just Middle Ages Europe with a higher baseline wealth.

>>Aerbil+Hq3
> stereotypical upper middle class American

Not sure where you're getting that from since the only claim I have made about the US (by implication) is that I think China is worse.

>>pdonis+ts3
Look, this is a public forum. I have no obligation to tailor my comment for each and every reader, I just picked a common and relevant demographic for use in a figure of speech, what’s wrong with that?

>>Aerbil+mt3
> I have no obligation to tailor my comment for each and every reader

You weren't responding to "each and every reader", you were responding to me. Your "figure of speech" was not justified when responding to me. Whether it would be justified when responding to someone else is irrelevant.

>>pdonis+rA8
Sorry, I should have researched where you live before making my first comment.