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[return to "Open source is neither a community nor a democracy"]
1. schnee+hM1[view] [source] 2024-06-30 05:04:25
>>levlaz+(OP)
I’m a top 50. Rails contributor. I worked with him in the sense that I tried for him to not need to notice that I exist. I felt lots of community with other contributors and core. But never Dave.

The year I got my Ruby Hero award was the year that I (partially) convinced core team members to name the RC release of Rails “race car” because Dave ditched us to play Max Verstappen. He didn’t come to RailsConf because of a race.

The years he did come, he usually will come be there for his keynote, maybe see him at dinner, and then he’s gone. Everyone else is pumped to be there. Core and contributors show up, actually go to talks for all the days, conduct birds of a feather sessions and hack and chat.

On the day that 1/3 of basecamp quit I had a realization that he really just didn’t care about us. We were resources to be exploited.

I still really like the rails community, but it keeps feeling like Dave wants that to be exclusively defined around him. Which doesn’t feel like a community.

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2. sorami+sX1[view] [source] 2024-06-30 08:57:06
>>schnee+hM1
You convinced core team members to inject snarky personal attacks in the Rails release name because its creator didn't attend RailsConf? I might be missing something here, but that comes off as incredibly toxic. It also doesn't sound like the actions of a person who's trying not to be noticed of their existence.
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3. smitty+k62[view] [source] 2024-06-30 11:05:15
>>sorami+sX1
> incredibly toxic

I can't get past "snide" on this one.

Social commitments are purely voluntary. If someone's burned out and introverted for whatever reason, then only the legal commitments matter, irrespective of wishes we harbor.

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4. sorami+B82[view] [source] 2024-06-30 11:41:16
>>smitty+k62
If it's just an isolated one-off joke between a small number of people, it might be no big deal. But when it's done as part of the release process, I'm going to have serious questions about the people involved. Because it suggests that this kind of behavior is tolerated and normalized.
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5. smitty+8g2[view] [source] 2024-06-30 13:39:51
>>sorami+B82
This is an excellent point. If the parties involved can be humble, honest, and committed to the general improvement, then there can be improvement.

Which is more or less impossible at scale.

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