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1. SeanAn+A3[view] [source] 2024-06-21 19:43:48
>>voisin+(OP)
Barcelona has a population of ~1.7 million. The metro area surrounding is ~5.7 million. The metro area grew by ~100k in the past four years.

They are freeing up ~10,000 houses over the next four years with this legislation. Barcelona built ~15,000 new properties between 2011 and 2020.

The math don't math. It's a drop in the bucket. The entire impact of AirBnB + all housing built in the last decade does not offset the last half decade of population growth.

Housing must be built more quickly than your population is growing to keep prices down, or you must concede that you live in a nice area where people wealthier than you wish to be and that those people are going to gentrify the area and displace locals. It's an unpleasant reality of the world.

EDIT: some good feedback in the responses. thanks! I'm being a bit dramatic by saying it's just a drop in the bucket, this action frees up more housing than was built over the same timespan, and it's possible to have effects on pricing greater than what would be inferred by the raw numbers because economics is tricky. cheers.

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2. kachap+C6[view] [source] 2024-06-21 19:57:49
>>SeanAn+A3
The issue is that the "airbnb" areas drive normal citizens out which during off-seasons drains foot traffic making local shops go out of business which further complicates the problem.

Not to mention that most tourists don't even sit around the local area, but rather go to the city attractions.

Airbnb and resident housing areas are just not compatible, they have different needs and require different infrastructure. Hotels are built around infrastructure supporting tourism and are much healthier for cities.

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3. jorvi+0b[view] [source] 2024-06-21 20:25:56
>>kachap+C6
The problem with hotel rooms is that they’re more expensive, get much more expensive per additional person, and don’t have the amenities of an appartement.

If I’m somewhere with a group for longer than three days, we want to be able to hang somewhere and cook our own food. The only other thing that offers this feature set is private rooms in hostels, and those are both rare and nearly always fully booked.

I’m not saying having a good base for vacationing is anywhere near as important as residential housing supply, but saying “just book hotels lol” takes a very dim view on AirBnBs.

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4. silver+Sc[view] [source] 2024-06-21 20:38:58
>>jorvi+0b
"we want to be able to hang somewhere" ...just saying because I'm sorry I can't contain myself: This is exactly the use case Airbnb doesn't solve. I fly half-way across the world to meet my parents on vacation and almost without fail the only Airbnb I can find (or all the ones I can find) have a strict rule against guests. Hence I can't have my parents over 10 minutes to drink tea because if the owner, big brother, finds out I'll lose my entire remaining month of rent and be forcibly expelled. In Europe this is not joke, often a loss of $2000+

I truly hate Airbnb. Luckily since my parents only stay a week they can afford to stay in a hotel. Invariable we "hang out" with me sitting at the foot of their bed.

These "rules" become extremely oppressive when your home most of the year is an Airbnb room like me. This is why I use Booking or local corporate owned platfroms instead whenever possible

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5. resolu+bh[view] [source] 2024-06-21 21:07:25
>>silver+Sc
Overnight guests are typically banned, but I've never seen an Airbnb listing that says you can't have someone over for a cup of tea.
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6. dylan6+sj[view] [source] 2024-06-21 21:23:14
>>resolu+bh
And how would they know? Oh right, hidden cameras. Nothing about airbnb is attractive to me any more.
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7. n_plus+Jq[view] [source] 2024-06-21 22:15:51
>>dylan6+sj
That would be very illegal in many places.
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