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1. lucasf+f2[view] [source] 2024-06-21 19:37:46
>>voisin+(OP)
Honest question: does this work?

It seems to me that this change will have unintended effects and will fail to produce the desired results.

AFAIK rent in NYC hasn’t gone down since they changed their short-term rental regulations.

I might be naive, but I’d assume that the solution is to build more housing to increase the supply instead of curbing the demand?

Genuinely curious about others’ takes on this.

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2. toomuc+X2[view] [source] 2024-06-21 19:41:00
>>lucasf+f2
Where in Barcelona would you increase density?

https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/barcelona-pop...

from >>40752920 ("Barcelona has a 16,000 people per square km density - that’s already one of the highest in Europe.")

Capital moves faster than meat space. To defend the human (affordable housing), you have to regulate. The whole "just build more, I want my AirBnB" argument boggles the mind considering the physical system constraints in play. Easier to just ban AirBnB.

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3. pupper+Y4[view] [source] 2024-06-21 19:50:21
>>toomuc+X2
That being said, in the US you can and should absolutely should build more, and basically get rid of most zoning regulations. You'd have a hard time finding anything as touristic and dense as Barcelona in the US.
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4. toomuc+C5[view] [source] 2024-06-21 19:53:04
>>pupper+Y4
I argue AirBnB should be banned anywhere building cannot be done at a rate which ensures affordable housing can exist for locals. Whether that is due to construction labor shortages, density, zoning, whatever, it does not matter. AirBnB can exist where there is surplus housing capacity, but should be banned anywhere else.

Locals get votes, tourists and AirBnB do not. The harm of not being able to afford housing is far worse than harm incurred by not being able to book a vacation rental you prefer.

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5. jupp0r+S6[view] [source] 2024-06-21 19:59:25
>>toomuc+C5
Following your logic, why not ban hotels?
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6. toomuc+p8[view] [source] 2024-06-21 20:08:36
>>jupp0r+S6
Hotels go through an approval process to be built, and are regulated (where as AirBnB exists to skirt lodging regulation). Hotels are not competing against residential housing, but AirBnB is.
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7. jupp0r+9d[view] [source] 2024-06-21 20:40:48
>>toomuc+p8
Of course hotels are competing against residential housing. They take up land that could be used for residential housing instead.
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8. bsder+hl[view] [source] 2024-06-21 21:37:15
>>jupp0r+9d
Outside of downtown areas in the biggest cities in the US, it is very unlikely that a hotel is built in an area that people would want to build residential housing.

Normally hotels are built near either business or tourist areas. Very few people want their residences in the suburban office park areas. Tourist areas tend to be older areas that have strong restrictions on new development--hotels there have to go through long permitting processes.

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