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>>richar+(OP)
I think it's really problematic that the government is protecting voice actor's careers. It's like if they disallowed cars on the roads to protect horse carriages. Clearly with the new technology a whole economic sector is gone and irrelevant over night. Now amateurs and small projects can afford to add good sounding voices to their creations. This is good news in the end

The same goes for actors and their likenesses ... just stop protecting ultra wealthy celebrities. They'll be a bit poorer, but they're going to be okay. You're just holding back progress

I can imagine in a decade some place like China which doesn't care about protecting celebrities will have movies with dozens of Tom Cruises Arnolds and Johansson's and will just be pumping out better quality content at affordable budgets. Young talented directors won't be hamstrung by these legal roadblocks

>>contra+tX
It boils down to dollars and cents.

Why should the creative sources (artists, actors, writers, etc.) be left out of the cut, while the tech companies are reaping the rewards?

"But those stars are rich, they'll survive."

Yeah, maybe - but the creative world is 0.001% wealthy people, and the rest being people that barely get by - and could earn more money by doing pretty much anything else.

I get the argument about copyright protections stifling progress, but it bugs me something fierce that people here are essentially saying it's OK for the AI/ML creators to become filthy rich, while the people they are ripping off should just do something else.

>>Tracke+a01
They won't become filthy rich based of any one person's voice b/c anyone else can create a synthetic replica as well (unless they have some secret training data or something). It becomes commodity and as free as the air. Voice acting ceases to be a real career but in exchange it becomes accessible to everyone for pennies

>>contra+F01
And where does this stop?

Say you wake up one day, and find out some AI copy made a digital twin/clone out of you. Your voice, your looks, your style of writing, your style of speaking. Everything that is you, they've cloned.

And then they use a digital you in commercials, movies, or whatever. And, of course, you're not entitled to a single cent - because it's not you, just something that looks, sounds, and acts like you. Hell, no mater how much you hate the use, there's nothing that can be done - because this is for the greater good of tech progress.

This is some pretty fundamental stuff that needs to be sorted out, ASAP.

>>Tracke+D11
You're being a bit melodramatic, but again the distinction is pretty clear. As long as there is a clear distinction between what is me, and made my me, and what was done by a machine/company/etc. then I don't really see the issue

If people make videos of me having sex, or fighting aliens or selling laundry detergent.. again.. why should I care?

As long as nobody is saying "Hey you're actually talking to Scarlett live right now!" it's not hurting her.

>>contra+V51
> As long as there is a clear distinction between what is me, and made my me, and what was done by a machine/company/etc. then I don't really see the issue

What would be this clear distinction if the internet was spammed full of you doing things you would never do? Why should anyone care to find out the real you amongst the fake ones?

>>guitar+481
First of all, this is already beyond the scope of the current issue. We know Scarlett is not on the other end of the line with OpenAI

And in a world where there are deepfakes of every famous person.. People will finally stop trusting everything they see online. With the way things are going at the moment we're going to get to that point with or without legislation. Realistically you just won't be able to ban deep fakes worldwide. People will just assume if they come across a video online that it's fake - as they should be doing already in all honesty

If you made a concerted effort to fool people into thinking it's the real person then it'd be illegal. Especially if you're out to hurt them somehow. In the same vein as libel

>>contra+cq1
> And in a world where there are deepfakes of every famous person.. People will finally stop trusting everything they see online.

And in a world where there are deepfakes of every person, famous or not... People won't be able to trust anything they see anywhere. Welcome to Hell.