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1. justeo+V01[view] [source] 2024-05-23 08:12:35
>>richar+(OP)
I never comment on HN I’ve just always been a long time lurker but I feel like I’m going crazy here reading comments.

SJ is not the “AI” portrayed in the movie her. And AFAIK she does not in fact have all the same idiosyncrasies and tones in real life as the voice does in the movie because she was in fact directed to act like that.

Not only that but the voices are not the same because there was another actress for sky as we have seen.

To me It seems as if the case for SJ is DOA unless it comes out somehow that they in fact trained on her voice specifically. But since that doesn’t seem like the case I have no idea how SJ can legally own all voices that sound like hers.

It would obviously be a different story if OpenAI were saying that sky was SJ but that’s not the case. To me the question should be is “can the studio own the character in her that openAI was copying and any similar things”. Which given that systems like SIRI were already out there in the world when the movie came out and we knew this tech was on the way. The answer should be no but IANAL.

I’m not a huge fan of OpenAI anymore and I think they deserve criticism for many things. But this situation isn’t one of them.

Clarification: Of course if it turns out that they in fact trained on SJ or altered the voice to be more like hers then I’d think differently. I still think the studio has more of a claim though look from the outside and not being a lawyer.

Edit: clarification

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2. pseudo+Y11[view] [source] 2024-05-23 08:22:23
>>justeo+V01
Exactly. Lots of voices sound like other peoples’ voices. We aren’t that unique.

SJ doesn’t get to own the voice rights to everyone that sounds at all like her just because she is famous.

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3. nicce+831[view] [source] 2024-05-23 08:32:31
>>pseudo+Y11
It is not about the voice. Rather using the fame of known actress to boost the product. If your inner motive is to sound like her because she is well-known, differences in voice does not matter much.
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4. JChara+0m1[view] [source] 2024-05-23 11:17:12
>>nicce+831
The voice was called Sky and OpenAI wasn't using her likeness to promote the voice or product. She isn't that well known, I didn't even know she was in Her.

There's 1 billion English speakers, there are going to be voice overlaps.

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5. nicce+XA1[view] [source] 2024-05-23 13:03:19
>>JChara+0m1
The issue is that they contacted her and advertised based on her. They clearly wanted it to sound like her. Now, that it sounded like her, there is a reason to make conclusions about OpenAI's real motives.
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6. pseudo+AS1[view] [source] 2024-05-23 14:36:46
>>nicce+XA1
How did they advertise this as being SJ? It is worth pointing out that Sky kind of sounded like the voice from Her, not SJ. The voice in Her is a voice SJ did for that movie. It isn’t her normal speaking voice. Does she get to own the likeness of every kind of voice she’s made, or could make?
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7. JumpCr+BW1[view] [source] 2024-05-23 14:56:12
>>pseudo+AS1
> How did they advertise this as being SJ?

Altman tweeted a reference to Her. (Literally just that text.)

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8. pseudo+DB2[view] [source] 2024-05-23 18:23:04
>>JumpCr+BW1
How does that only refer to the voice? And how is that advertising, or using SJ's likeness or image?

I think the fact that the AI in the OpenAI demos acts like it is at a similar level to Her is far more impressive than the voice may sound like the one SJ did for that movie. Impressively mimicked voices aren't that new. Amazon sold a Samuel L Jackson Alexa voice years ago.

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