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1. justeo+V01[view] [source] 2024-05-23 08:12:35
>>richar+(OP)
I never comment on HN I’ve just always been a long time lurker but I feel like I’m going crazy here reading comments.

SJ is not the “AI” portrayed in the movie her. And AFAIK she does not in fact have all the same idiosyncrasies and tones in real life as the voice does in the movie because she was in fact directed to act like that.

Not only that but the voices are not the same because there was another actress for sky as we have seen.

To me It seems as if the case for SJ is DOA unless it comes out somehow that they in fact trained on her voice specifically. But since that doesn’t seem like the case I have no idea how SJ can legally own all voices that sound like hers.

It would obviously be a different story if OpenAI were saying that sky was SJ but that’s not the case. To me the question should be is “can the studio own the character in her that openAI was copying and any similar things”. Which given that systems like SIRI were already out there in the world when the movie came out and we knew this tech was on the way. The answer should be no but IANAL.

I’m not a huge fan of OpenAI anymore and I think they deserve criticism for many things. But this situation isn’t one of them.

Clarification: Of course if it turns out that they in fact trained on SJ or altered the voice to be more like hers then I’d think differently. I still think the studio has more of a claim though look from the outside and not being a lawyer.

Edit: clarification

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2. mondri+b21[view] [source] 2024-05-23 08:23:52
>>justeo+V01
Well as the article states, there’s legal precedent protecting actors from having their voices “impersonated” by other actors. The fact that Altman tweeted “her” and contacted Johansson can make the case for the intent to impersonate.
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3. Pedro_+P31[view] [source] 2024-05-23 08:37:53
>>mondri+b21
What if that's just the VA's natural voice? Must she stop doing VA?
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4. blitza+a41[view] [source] 2024-05-23 08:40:20
>>Pedro_+P31
No she just has to do so without promoting it as having been done by Scarlett Johansson.
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5. Sebb76+n61[view] [source] 2024-05-23 08:59:49
>>blitza+a41
Except there wasn't any promotion. The only thing close would be Sams tweet, but this was not an official statement and could easily be explained to refer to the concept of voice assistants in general. The fact that SJ was contacted twice was actually publicized by SJ and not OpenAI.
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6. sumedh+Qg1[view] [source] 2024-05-23 10:30:47
>>Sebb76+n61
> The only thing close would be Sams tweet, but this was not an official statement

How is a tweet from the CEO not an official statement?

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7. theult+DI1[view] [source] 2024-05-23 13:45:35
>>sumedh+Qg1
it's the CEO's personal statement.

but yes, even a personal statement may have some value in a case, but you ignored the second part of the GP's criticism.

you're reaching that the tweet of the poster of "Her" meant "hey guys, this is voiced by SJ"

it simply could mean that "hey guys, it sounds as good as the voice assistant from Her"

it is voice assistant software after all...

mind reading a tweet does not make a good case, especially with the timeline noted in TFA.

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8. JumpCr+RW1[view] [source] 2024-05-23 14:57:34
>>theult+DI1
> it's the CEO's personal statement

Wat.

> mind reading a tweet

He says the name of the movie! We don’t need to know his state of mind, just the promotional effect.

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