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1. panark+m1[view] [source] 2024-05-21 22:37:32
>>panark+(OP)
Altman would have us believe it's all just an innocent misunderstanding but without actually saying so:

"We cast the voice actor behind Sky’s voice before any outreach to Ms. Johansson."

Is he trying to suggest the company did not try to make the voice sound like her without her permission?

The statement sounds like it's written by a lawyer to be technically true while implying something that is actually false.

These are weasel words.

He sounds sneaky, evasive and intentionally deceptive.

We should not give a sneaky, deceptive and manipulative person this much power over our future.

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2. miohta+Y1[view] [source] 2024-05-21 22:41:05
>>panark+m1
There are hundreds of people with similar voices. If any voice actor can pull the same accent than Ms. Johansson, it should be fair game, as long it was the original training material? Voices cannot be copyrighted or be exclusive, although I am sure Hollywood will try to copyright them in some point.
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3. LeonB+c5[view] [source] 2024-05-21 22:57:21
>>miohta+Y1
In back to the future II, Crispin Glover didn’t sign up to be George McFly so they used facial prosthetics and impersonation to continue the George McFly character.

He sued Universal, and reportedly settled for $760,000.

Example article on the topic - https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/bac...

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4. franka+Q6[view] [source] 2024-05-21 23:06:00
>>LeonB+c5
While not defending OpenAI or Altman, the caveat here is that this was a voice actor using their natural voice, not an actor impersonating scarlett johansson.

Setting a precedent that if your natural voice sounds similar to a more famous actor precludes you from work would be a terrible precedent to set.

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5. hluska+m9[view] [source] 2024-05-21 23:18:38
>>franka+Q6
If we assume that Scarlett Johansson is telling the truth, why would they try to resume negotiations with her two days before they launched the model? If they found a good actor whose voice sounds like Scarlett Johansson, that’s a great argument. But if they found a good actor whose voice sounds like Scarlett Johansson because the real Scarlett Johansson said no, that gets more questionable.

When they did all that and still promoted the launch by directly referring to a Scarlett Johansson role, it got even more questionable.

I’m not pulling out my pitchforks but this is reckless.

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6. czl+bg[view] [source] 2024-05-22 00:04:01
>>hluska+m9
> why would they try to resume negotiations

Could they be trying to avert possible negative public perception even if they believe all they did was 100% legal? If you have ample funds and are willing to pay someone to make X easier for you does your offer to pay them imply that X is against the law? If your voice sounds like someone famous now you are prevented from getting any voice acting work? Because that famous person owns the rights to your voice? Tell me which law says this?

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7. hluska+7y[view] [source] 2024-05-22 02:58:42
>>czl+bg
I don’t know why you’re asking me those last three questions. First, I’m not a lawyer. Second, I didn’t make any claims that could make those questions relevant.

Instead, I’ll repeat my earlier claim - this was reckless. If they were trying to avoid a strong negative perception, they failed. And they failed with an actor who sued Disney shortly after they paid her $20 million to make a movie.

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8. czl+Bh2[view] [source] 2024-05-22 17:24:13
>>hluska+7y
You asked the good question about why they may have acted as they did and I attempted to answer it. In hindsight based on results it may look reckless but decisions need to be judged based on that is known at the time they are made and the public reaction was not a foregone outcome. The openAI sky voice has been available since last September why was there no outrage about it back then?

You can listen to the voices side by side:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1cwy6wz/comment/l4...

And here is voice of another actress ( Rashida Jones ):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=385414AVZcA

This test is not blind but YOU tell me which you think is similar to the openAI sky voice?

> And they failed with an actor who sued Disney shortly after they paid her $20 million to make a movie.

OpenAI did not fail. They suspended the sky voice and backed down not to further anger a segment of the public who views much of what OpenAI does in a negative light. Given the voice test above do you seriously think OpenAI would lose in court? Would that matter to the segment of population that is already outraged by AI? How are journalists and news companies affected by AI? How might their reporting be biased?

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9. CRConr+N35[view] [source] 2024-05-23 13:10:50
>>czl+Bh2
> OpenAI did not fail. They suspended the sky voice and backed down

Yeah, that's failing.

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