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1. yashap+2J1[view] [source] 2024-05-18 15:22:57
>>fnbr+(OP)
For a company that is actively pursuing AGI (and probably the #1 contender to get there), this type of behaviour is extremely concerning.

There’s a very real/significant risk that AGI either literally destroys the human race, or makes life much shittier for most humans by making most of us obsolete. These risks are precisely why OpenAI was founded as a very open company with a charter that would firmly put the needs of humanity over their own pocketbooks, highly focused on the alignment problem. Instead they’ve closed up, become your standard company looking to make themselves ultra wealthy, and they seem like an extra vicious, “win at any cost” one at that. This plus their AI alignment people leaving in droves (and being muzzled on the way out) should be scary to pretty much everyone.

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2. robert+ZL1[view] [source] 2024-05-18 15:46:50
>>yashap+2J1
> or makes life much shittier for most humans by making most of us obsolete

I'm not sure this is true. If all the things people are doing are done so much more cheaply they're almost free, that would be good for us, as we're also the buyers as well as the workers.

However, I also doubt the premise.

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3. confid+XM1[view] [source] 2024-05-18 15:55:38
>>robert+ZL1
Why would you need buyers if AI can create anything you desire?
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4. flashg+jP1[view] [source] 2024-05-18 16:22:18
>>confid+XM1
In an ideal world where gpus are a commodity yes. Btw at least today ai is owned/controlled by the rich and powerful and that's where majority of the research dollars are coming from. Why would they just relinquish ai so generously?
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5. branda+TR1[view] [source] 2024-05-18 16:52:35
>>flashg+jP1
With an ever expanding AI everything should be quickly commoditized, including reduction in energy to run AI and energy itself (ie. viable commercial fusion or otherwise).
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6. flashg+hk2[view] [source] 2024-05-18 20:59:45
>>branda+TR1
That's the thing I am struggling with. I agree things will exponentially improve with AI. What i am not seeing is who will actually capture the value. Or rather how will those other than rich and powerful get to partake in this value capture. Take viable commercial fusion for example. Best case it ends up looking like another PG&E. Worst case it is owned by yet another Musk like gatekeeper. How do you see this being truly democratized and accessible for the masses?
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7. branda+uN2[view] [source] 2024-05-19 03:01:51
>>flashg+hk2
The most rosy outcome would be benevolent state actors control it, and the value capture is simply for everyone as the costs for everything go to zero (food, energy, housing, etc). It would be post-capitalist, post-consumer.

Of course the problem is whether or not it could be controlled, and in that case, the best hope is simply 'it' being benevolent and naturally incentivized to create such a utopia.

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