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1. thorum+Bu[view] [source] 2024-05-17 23:10:57
>>fnbr+(OP)
Extra respect is due to Jan Leike, then:

https://x.com/janleike/status/1791498174659715494

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2. adamta+dH[view] [source] 2024-05-18 01:28:01
>>thorum+Bu
Reading that thread it’s really interesting to me. I see how far we’ve come in a short couple of years. But I still can’t grasp how we’ll achieve AGI within any reasonable amount of time. It just seems like we’re missing some really critical… something…

Idk. Folks much smarter than I seem worried so maybe I should be too but it just seems like such a long shot.

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3. raverb+X21[view] [source] 2024-05-18 07:42:13
>>adamta+dH
> Folks much smarter than I seem worried so maybe I should be too but it just seems like such a long shot.

Honestly? I'm not too worried

We've seen how the google employee that was "seeing a conscience" (in what was basically GPT-2 lol) was a nothing burger

We've seen other people in "AI Safety" overplay their importance and hype their CV more than actually do any relevant work. (Usually also playing the diversity card)

So, no, AI safety is important but I see it attracting the least helpful and resourceful people to the area.

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4. llamai+wj1[view] [source] 2024-05-18 11:43:16
>>raverb+X21
I think when you’re jumping to arguments that resolve to “Ilya Sutskever wasn’t doing important work… might’ve played the diversity card,” it’s time to reassess your mental model and inspect it closely for motivated reasoning.
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5. raverb+Tk1[view] [source] 2024-05-18 12:00:15
>>llamai+wj1
Ilya's case is different. He thought the engineers would win in a dispute with Sam at board level.

That has proven to be a mistake

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6. llamai+hq1[view] [source] 2024-05-18 12:50:51
>>raverb+Tk1
And Jan Leike, one of the progenitors of RLHF?

What about Geoffrey Hinton? Stuart Russell? Dario Amodei?

Also exceptions to your model?

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