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1. nickle+491[view] [source] 2024-05-15 14:48:28
>>Jimmc4+(OP)
It is easy to point to loopy theories around superalignment, p(doom), etc. But you don't have to be hopped up on sci-fi to oppose something like GPT-4o. Low-latency response time is fine. The faking of emotions and overt references to Her (along with the suspiciously-timed relaxation of pornographic generations) are not fine. I suspect Altman/Brockman/Murati intended for this thing to be dangerous for mentally unwell users, using the exact same logic as tobacco companies.
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2. bnralt+Dg1[view] [source] 2024-05-15 15:22:23
>>nickle+491
One could also say that therapists prey on lonely people who pay them to talk to them and seem like they’re genuinely interested in them, when the therapist wouldn’t bother having a connection with these people once they stop paying. Which I suppose is true from a certain point of view. But from another point of view, sometimes people feel like they don’t have close friends or family to talk to and need something, even if it’s not a genuine love or friendship.
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3. kettro+rh1[view] [source] 2024-05-15 15:25:12
>>bnralt+Dg1
This is implying that therapy is nothing more than someone to talk to; if that’s your experience with therapy, then you should get another therapist.
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4. naaski+Tj1[view] [source] 2024-05-15 15:37:47
>>kettro+rh1
I think the preying part of therapy is that there's just no defined stop condition. There's no such thing as "healthy" in mental health. You get chemo until you go into remission or you die. You take blood pressure meds until you have a better lifestyle and body composition and don't need them anymore, etc. There's no analogue for "you're healthy now, go away so I can help others", and so therapy goes on forever until the patient stops for whatever reason.
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5. cbsmit+Wk1[view] [source] 2024-05-15 15:42:35
>>naaski+Tj1
> I think the preying part of therapy is that there's just no defined stop condition.

There's no defined stop point for physical development either... Top performing athletes still have trainers, and nobody sees that as a problem. If it's mental development though, it must have a stop point?

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6. detour+br1[view] [source] 2024-05-15 16:07:54
>>cbsmit+Wk1
The stop point is obvious to the individual and the therapist. I'm dealing with someone that prefers to stop rather than actually self-reflection.

There is nothing stopping them from exiting therapy. The therapist may be aware that the person is still a basket case but if they are non-violent they are free to roam.

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7. naaski+UI1[view] [source] 2024-05-15 17:29:24
>>detour+br1
> The stop point is obvious to the individual and the therapist.

It's not at all. There are plenty of stories of people who realized that therapy was just causing them to ruminate on their problems, and that the therapist was just milking them for years before they wised up and walked away. That's not what I call "obvious".

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8. detour+JL1[view] [source] 2024-05-15 17:43:24
>>naaski+UI1
I think either the therapist or the patient was not devoted to therapy.
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