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>>wavela+(OP)
Jan Leike has said he's leaving too https://twitter.com/janleike/status/1790603862132596961

>>ascorb+6C
There goes the so called superalignment:

Ilya

Jan Leike

William Saunders

Leopold Aschenbrenner

All gone

>>DalasN+BC
Daniel “Quit OpenAI due to losing confidence that it would behave responsibly around the time of AGI”

“I think AGI will probably be here by 2029, and could indeed arrive this year”

Kokotajlo too.

We are so fucked

>>reduce+sF
I am sorry, there must be some hidden tech, some completely different attempt to speak about AGI.

I really, really doubt that transformers will become AGI. Maybe I am wrong, I am no expert in this field, but I would love to understand the reasoning behind this "could arrive this year", because it reminds me about coldfusion :X

edit: maybe the term has changed again. AGI to me means truly understanding, maybe even some kind of consciousness, but not just probability... when I explain something, I have understood it. It's not that I have soaked up so many books that I can just use a probabilistic function to "guess" which word should come next.

>>Otomot+hG
Don't worry, these are the "keeping the bridge intact" speak of people leaving a glorious or so workplace. I have worked at several places, and when people left(usually most well paid ones), they post linkedin/twitter posts to say kudos and inspire that, the corresponding business will be in forefront of the particular niche this year or soon and they would like to be proud of ever being part of it.

Also, when they speak about AGI, it raises their(person leaving) marketing value as someone else already know they are brilliant to have worked at something cool and they might also know some secret sauce, which could be acquired at lower cost by hiring them immediately[1]. I have seen these kinds of speak play out too many times. Last January, one of the senior engineers from my current work place in aviation left citing about something super secret coming this year or soon, and they immediately got hired by a competitor with generous pay to work on that said topic.

>>n_ary+qH
> Also, when they speak about AGI, it raises their(person leaving) marketing value

Why yes, of course Jan Leike just impromptu resigned and Daniel Kokotajlo just gave up 85% of his wealth in order not to sign a resignation NDA to do what you're describing...

>>reduce+JH
While he'll be giving up a lot of wealth, it's unlikely that any meaningful NDA will be applied here. Maybe for products, but definitely not for their research.

There's very few people who can lead in frontier AI research domains - maybe a few dozen worldwide - and there are many active research niches. Applying an NDA to a very senior researcher would be such a massive net-negative for the industry, that it'd be a net-negative for the applying organisation too.

I could see some kind of product-based NDA, like "don't discuss the target release dates for the new models", but "stop working on your field of research" isn't going to happen.

>>Shrezz+9O
Kokotajlo: “To clarify: I did sign something when I joined the company, so I'm still not completely free to speak (still under confidentiality obligations). But I didn't take on any additional obligations when I left.

Unclear how to value the equity I gave up, but it probably would have been about 85% of my family's net worth at least.

Basically I wanted to retain my ability to criticize the company in the future.“

> but "stop working on your field of research" isn't going to happen.

We’re talking about NDA, obviously no-competes aren’t legal in CA

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/kovCotfpTFWFXaxwi/?commentId...

>>reduce+FP
> Unclear how to value the equity I gave up, but it probably would have been about 85% of my family's net worth at least.

Percentages are nice, but with money and wealth absolute numbers are already important enough. You can leave a very, very good life even if you are losing 85% if the remaining 15% is USD $1M. And if not signing that NDA will help you landing another richly paying job + freedom to say whatever you feel it's important saying.