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>>wavela+(OP)
Ilya knows how ChatGPT works. Any company that hires him will be able to catch up with ChatGPT.

>>breadw+D4
I think what is probably very stressful about this space is virtually everyone knows how ChatGPT works. It is not a theoretical leap. It's actually fairly predictable how this shakes out, and OpenAI is pretty vulnerable.

an LLM is a curiosity without user data, anyone with a big silo of data can put out something years behind frontier and still instantly see huge usage. No one wants to go to AI, they want AI to come to them, unless OpenAI can stake a claim in a super novel way they're the Dropbox.

It's not like someone is going to use insider OpenAI knowledge to build an LLM so advanced you switch email, phone, or ERP providers

>>menaci+Us
No they don’t; if they did Google and Meta would have put out offerings that objectively beat OpenAI. However (barring temporary lapses) they’ve stayed ahead of the curve. Someone who constantly thinks low of their competition or people they hate is bound to fail.

>>ramraj+Wu
First, "objectively beat" doesn't matter. Comparative LLM performance means more or less nothing without application.

Let's say Google's LLM has slightly poorer reasoning, and you have to be really clear when you tell it to delete your old emails. What are you going to do, go to ChatGPT and have it very eloquently walk you through how to manually delete your emails?

But the idea that Google, the terrifying nation-state, who covetously gobbled up most of the bright minds of a generation, just couldn't fathom RLHF, means you think there is some inherent magic at OpenAI.

I use OpenAI's models a lot, obviously they're great, but whole-thread-as-context as a product is not a product, and Google has people plural who could execute that from first principles.