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1. blueye+Fp[view] [source] 2024-04-17 22:46:18
>>iafish+(OP)
Cyc is one of those bad ideas that won't die, and which keeps getting rediscovered on HN. Lenat wasted decades of his life on it. Knowledge graphs like Cyc are labor intensive to build and difficult to maintain. They are brittle in the face of change, and useless if they cannot represent the underlying changes of reality.
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2. breck+1z[view] [source] 2024-04-18 00:00:58
>>blueye+Fp
I think before 2022 it was still an open question whether it was a good approach.

Now it's clear that knowledge graphs are far inferior to deep neural nets, but even still few people can explain the _root_ reason why.

I don't think Lenat's bet was a waste. I think it was sensible based on the information at the time.

The decision to research it largely in secret, closed source, I think was a mistake.

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3. xpe+eA[view] [source] 2024-04-18 00:09:50
>>breck+1z
> but even still few people can explain the _root_ reason why.

_The_ (one) root reason? Ok, I’ll bite.

But you need to define your claim. What application?

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4. breck+x05[view] [source] 2024-04-19 16:08:08
>>xpe+eA
> _The_ (one) root reason? Ok, I’ll bite.

A "secret" hiding in plain sight.

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5. xpe+hA8[view] [source] 2024-04-21 00:39:27
>>breck+x05
Does writing riddles help anyone? Maybe it helps you, maybe by giving you a smirk or dopamine hit? Think about others, please.

What is obvious to you is not obvious to others. I recommend explaining and clarifying if you care about persuasion.

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6. breck+qQ9[view] [source] 2024-04-21 16:44:11
>>xpe+hA8
> Does writing riddles help anyone?

Pardon the cliffhanger style.

I have begun crafting an explanation, but not sure when it will be ready.

But when you recognize that thinking predates symbolic language, and start thinking about what thinking needs, you get closer to the answer.

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