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1. troupe+Kd1[view] [source] 2024-03-01 18:04:16
>>modele+(OP)
If OpenAI became a non-profit with this in its charter:

“resulting technology will benefit the public and the corporation will seek to open source technology for the public benefit when applicable. The corporation is not organized for the private gain of any person"

I don't think it is going to be hard to show that they are doing something very different than what they said they were going to do.

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2. belter+3h3[view] [source] 2024-03-02 13:55:14
>>troupe+Kd1
Taking into account, the reported reason Elon Musk departed from the project, is because he wanted OpenAI to merge with Tesla, and he would take complete control of the project, this lawsuit smells of hypocrisy.

"The secret history of Elon Musk, Sam Altman, and OpenAI" - https://www.semafor.com/article/03/24/2023/the-secret-histor...

But that was to be expected, from the guy who forced his employees to go work with Covid and claimed danger of Covid infection to show up at a Twitter aquisition deposition...

"Tesla gave workers permission to stay home rather than risk getting covid-19. Then it sent termination notices." - https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/06/25/tesla-p...

"Musk declined to attend in-person Twitter deposition, citing COVID exposure risk" - https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3675282-musk-de...

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3. loceng+Gl3[view] [source] 2024-03-02 14:41:02
>>belter+3h3
Can you cite the specific line and source claiming "reported reason Elon Musk departed from the project"? Feels taken out of context from what I remembering reading before.

Not sure I'd trust Washington Post to present a story accurately - whether the termination notices were relevant to the premise presented.

Did he attend the Twitter deposition via video? Seems like a hit piece.

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4. belter+ap3[view] [source] 2024-03-02 15:13:20
>>loceng+Gl3
"...And Musk proposed a possible solution: He would take control of OpenAI and run it himself.

Altman and OpenAI’s other founders rejected Musk’s proposal. Musk, in turn, walked away from the company — and reneged on a massive planned donation. The fallout from that conflict, culminating in the announcement of Musk’s departure on Feb 20, 2018..."

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5. loceng+AT3[view] [source] 2024-03-02 19:03:10
>>belter+ap3
So you removed the context that the solution - for them betraying-violating the non-profit agreement - was for him to take it over and realign it back following its intended principles during OpenAI's formation-conception?
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6. belter+z14[view] [source] 2024-03-02 20:21:11
>>loceng+AT3
No I did not, but in your reply you removed the context that he argued they were lagging behind Google, not that they were not working enough for humanity...

Now why are you being obtuse on ignoring another real reason, Elon Musk was poaching people from OpenAI and argued for a conflict of interest.

"Elon Musk leaves board of AI safety group to avoid conflict of interest with Tesla" - https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/21/17036214/elon-musk-openai...

From all the HN favorites memes, the two most strong that need to evaporate, are that Elon Musk wants to save humanity, and Sam Altman does not care about money...

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