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1. qwerto+zH1[view] [source] 2024-03-01 20:37:42
>>modele+(OP)
Whatever his reason may be (like resentment for jumping off the ship too soon and missing out, or standing in for humanity), I like what I read in the sense that it contains all the stuff that needs to be spoken about publicly, and the court seems to be the optimal place for this.

It feels like Microsoft is misusing the partnership only to block other companies from having access to the IP. They said they don't need the partnership, that they have got all what they need, so there would be no need to have the partnership.

If this is the way Microsoft misuses partnerships, I don't feel good about Mistral's new partnership, even if it means unlimited computing resources for them and still have the freedom to open source their models.

Not seeing Mistral Large as an open source model now has a bitter taste to it.

I also wonder if this lawsuit was the reason for him checking out Windows 11.

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2. boring+cI1[view] [source] 2024-03-01 20:41:34
>>qwerto+zH1
I don't think he has any resentment about jumping off "too soon" as you say. He specifically abandoned ship because he didn't align with the organization anymore. I suspect this has been a long time coming given his public commentary on AI.

He's goal on OpenAI investments were to keep close watch on the development of AI. If you believe the public comments or not is an entirely different matter though I do feel like there is sincerity in Elons AI comments.

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3. Andrew+qf2[view] [source] 2024-03-02 00:29:02
>>boring+cI1
I’d offer that Musk hasnt shown any consistent principle motivating his behavior other than gathering power, in the face of stated motivations.

So while he may genuinely believe what he is saying, the inherent philosophical conflicts in his consistent narcissistic actions, have poisoned any other possible position to such an extent that he has lost all moral credibility

Revealed preferences never lie

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4. tim333+ji2[view] [source] 2024-03-02 00:59:32
>>Andrew+qf2
He seems to broadly pursue projects he considers helpful to humanity like sustainable energy, the multiplanetary thing and setting up OpenAI. You can interpret people's motivations in different ways but it doesn't look like just power gathering to me. I mean if he was that power hungry you'd expect him to try to monopolize AI for himself rather than make it open.
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5. kerkes+My2[view] [source] 2024-03-02 04:32:17
>>tim333+ji2
How does manipulating MemeCoin prices or buying Twitter to bring back the n-word benefit humanity?

While the broad strokes of Tesla and SpaceX might benefit humanity, he seems to have no compunction about doing screwed up things with those companies, either. Remember when he proposed putting indentured servants on Mars?

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6. instag+xA2[view] [source] 2024-03-02 04:49:16
>>kerkes+My2
I think it's arguable that SpaceX and Tesla represent far more of Musk's contribution than anything else. But even with X, it helps to realise, he thinks he is doing good for the world by echoing rw thought.
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7. kerkes+WD2[view] [source] 2024-03-02 05:39:59
>>instag+xA2
> I think it's arguable that SpaceX and Tesla represent far more of Musk's contribution than anything else.

Eh, how much of a contribution did Elon Musk actually make to those things? He got them started, but owning something isn't a contribution, frankly. There are thousands of workers involved in those companies, and some of those workers are explicitly tasked with managing Musk's free-floating ego so he doesn't screw things up. If Musk died Tesla stock would probably tank in price, but that price change would represent a loss in hype, not in the value of Tesla. The relevant engineering talent that's there, would all still be there.

> But even with X, it helps to realise, he thinks he is doing good for the world by echoing rw thought.

Obviously, but who cares?

Intentions matter because a person who doesn't intend to cause harm can learn from their mistakes and causing harm. But Elon Musk doesn't think he's making mistakes, so his intentions don't particularly matter--he's not going to learn from his mistakes and he's just going to keep going on causing the same harms.

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