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1. silico+z11[view] [source] 2024-03-01 17:11:23
>>modele+(OP)
There is a lot in here but turning a non-profit into a for-profit definitely should be challenged. Otherwise why wouldn't everyone start as a non-profit, develop your IP, and then switch to 'for-profit' mode once you got something that works? You don't pay income taxes and your investors get write offs.
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2. stickf+Yb1[view] [source] 2024-03-01 17:56:38
>>silico+z11
You misunderstand how taxes work.

Unprofitable businesses of every sort don't pay income taxes. Startups like OpenAI don't pay income taxes because they don't have income. And investors don't get a writeoff merely for investing in a nonprofit; it's not like a donation to a nonprofit (which would be deductable).

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3. guhida+6h1[view] [source] 2024-03-01 18:20:48
>>stickf+Yb1
> Startups like OpenAI don't pay income taxes because they don't have income.

Where is my $20/month for GPT-4 going then?

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4. cogman+dk1[view] [source] 2024-03-01 18:33:12
>>guhida+6h1
Taxes are payed on net income not on individual transactions (barring sales tax).

If I make $100 in a year and spend $1000 that year, my income is ($900). How can I spend $1000? Generally through loans and bonds. How do I secure said loans? Generally simply by showing how much VC and income comes in with a business plan that banks accept.

But that's the secret to the money flow. That's also partially why the collapse of SVB was such a blow to the tech industry. A LOT of loans were issued by them.

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5. guhida+5z1[view] [source] 2024-03-01 19:47:43
>>cogman+dk1
Ok got it got it, I was thinking revenue == income, and not income == profit. My bad, financially illiterate I guess.
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