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1. silico+z11[view] [source] 2024-03-01 17:11:23
>>modele+(OP)
There is a lot in here but turning a non-profit into a for-profit definitely should be challenged. Otherwise why wouldn't everyone start as a non-profit, develop your IP, and then switch to 'for-profit' mode once you got something that works? You don't pay income taxes and your investors get write offs.
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2. ben_w+u41[view] [source] 2024-03-01 17:22:53
>>silico+z11
I'm not at all clear on what a "not for profit" status even does, tax wise. In any jurisdiction.

They are still able to actually make a profit (and quite often will, because careful balancing of perfect profit and loss is almost impossible and loss is bad), and I thought those profits were still taxed because otherwise that's too obvious as a tax dodge, it's just that profit isn't their main goal?

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3. emoden+061[view] [source] 2024-03-01 17:28:33
>>ben_w+u41
Well, you're confused because of your erroneous determination that they're "able to make a profit." They are not. They are able to have positive cash flow but the money can only be reinvested in the nonprofit rather than extracted as profit.
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4. ben_w+J61[view] [source] 2024-03-01 17:31:27
>>emoden+061
OK, so for me "positive cash" and "profit" are synonyms, with "[not] extracted" meaning "[no] dividends".
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5. emoden+p71[view] [source] 2024-03-01 17:35:25
>>ben_w+J61
As the government sees it, you realize "profit" when you, as an owner of the business, take the money it makes for yourself.
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6. Kranar+T91[view] [source] 2024-03-01 17:47:16
>>emoden+p71
This is bogus and doesn't even make sense.

That would mean that any publicly traded company that didn't issue a dividend didn't make a profit which no one believes.

Do you really want to claim that Google has never made any profit?

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