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1. breadw+2J[view] [source] 2024-03-01 15:39:31
>>modele+(OP)
In what capacity is Musk suing OpenAI? Musk may have co-founded the company, but then he left (to avoid any potential future conflict of interest with his role as CEO of Tesla, as Tesla was increasingly becoming an AI-intensive company). Is he a shareholder, if not what gives him any say in the future of the company?
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2. userna+BM[view] [source] 2024-03-01 15:59:20
>>breadw+2J
He's a donor to the OpenAi non-profit organization.
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3. breadw+HN[view] [source] 2024-03-01 16:04:40
>>userna+BM
A donor usually is only able to say how his donation will be used. For example, if you donate to Harvard University, you can say the money will be earmarked for scholarships, but you don't get a say on how the university is managed. You can at best say you will no longer donate based on how the university is managed.
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4. whythr+lP[view] [source] 2024-03-01 16:12:26
>>breadw+HN
You can sue for basically any reason in the US. If Musk is able to prove they are mishandling the money, which I think is debatable, then the case can proceed.

Just because you donate money doesn’t mean the charity or nonprofit (or whatever OpenAi is), can do as they like. They may still be committing fraud if they are not using the money in the way that they claim.

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5. solard+WQ[view] [source] 2024-03-01 16:20:24
>>whythr+lP
Don't you have to have some sort of standing in the lawsuit? If you don't directly suffer harm, I thought you'd have to convince the government to prosecute them instead?

(Not a lawyer, obviously.)

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6. JohnFe+5U[view] [source] 2024-03-01 16:35:20
>>solard+WQ
You can file a lawsuit for anything. If the lawsuit has serious fundamental flaws (such as lack of standing), then it will be dismissed pretty quickly.
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7. psunav+4W[view] [source] 2024-03-01 16:45:04
>>JohnFe+5U
Well you can also be spanked by the courts for frivolous litigation, and if it's truly frivolous, you may have a hard time finding an attorney, because they can be sanctioned for bringing such a suit as well.
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8. whythr+xX[view] [source] 2024-03-01 16:51:55
>>psunav+4W
This can happen in theory, but it is pretty rare. What you or I might call frivolous is often entertained in the court of law, and serial abusers of the court system may still issue hundreds or even thousands of attempts at lawsuits. This may be for monetary gain or to use the specter of the lawsuit as a cudgel to influence or intimidate.

This can also be exacerbated by ‘friendly’ (corrupt) courts that allow or even encourage this behavior.

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