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>>mfigui+M3
Frankly, OpenAI seems to be losing its luster, and fast.

Plugins were a failure. GPTs are a little better, but I still don't see the product market fit. GPT-4 is still king, but not by that much any more. It's not even clear that they're doing great research, because they don't publish.

GPT-5 has to be incredibly good at this point, and I'm not sure that it will be.

>>skepti+(OP)
Running Ollama with a 80gb mistral model works as well if not better than ChatGPT 3.5. This is a good thing for the world IMO as the magic is no longer held just OpenAI. The speed at which competitors have caught up in even the last 3 months is astounding.

>>roody1+Sf
But no one cares about 3.5. It’s an order of magnitude worse than 4. An order of magnitude is a lot harder to catch up with.

>>huyter+5h
This isn't true. Lots of people care deeply and use 3.5 levels of performance at some point in their software stack.

For lots of applications the speed/quality/price trade offs make a lot of sense.

For example if you are doing vanilla question answering over lots of documents then 3.5 or Mixtral are better than GPT4 because the speed is important.

>>nl+WC
It’s a price issue because 3.5 and 4 response times are about the same for me.