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1. iammjm+x3[view] [source] 2024-02-15 17:20:26
>>miohta+(OP)
Who is the victim of this “crime” here?
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2. Ahoy87+p5[view] [source] 2024-02-15 17:31:01
>>iammjm+x3
This is probably controversial, but if we assume that pedos will (unfortunately) exist and will generate demand for this kind of material, isn't it better if it comes from an AI instead of real children?
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3. double+k7[view] [source] 2024-02-15 17:39:04
>>Ahoy87+p5
For it to come from AI it needs to come from real children. Chicken and the egg scenario.

Someone abuses a child, film it, put it in AI. And they now have that child's model.

Throw away the child and they're currently guilty free if any charges. Of course that won't be enough so repeat the process.

It's not like someone is creating a model in blender and than running that though a AI. Not like that doesn't happen anyway.

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4. office+X8[view] [source] 2024-02-15 17:44:39
>>double+k7
> For it to come from AI it needs to come from real children.

Yes, but given that CSAM data already exists, and we can't go back in time to prevent it, there's no further cost to attain that dataset. Unlike all future real CSAM, which will be produced by abusing children IRL.

I see parallels with Unit 731 here. Horrible things have already happened, so what do we do with the information?

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5. double+9e[view] [source] 2024-02-15 18:06:24
>>office+X8
It's not the cost, why do need movies get produced when existing movies already exist?

Because of new content. If AI is being trained on real data and new content than the datasets don't end up stale.

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6. office+Rf[view] [source] 2024-02-15 18:13:54
>>double+9e
New movies get produced because people want to make and sell movies. They don't have to make movies that are 100% reality. Movies actually use special effects and CGI to fake all kinds of things that would be illegal in real life.

For example, there was a time when to get a flood effect filmmakers flooded a set. 3 extras died. Later on they were told they can't do that, but they can simulate it. Tons of movies show people getting overcome by floods, but no one dies in real life anymore.

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