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[return to ""Fake Chinese income" mortgages fuel Toronto real estate bubble: HSBC bank leaks"]
1. Terr_+z4[view] [source] 2024-02-06 18:11:17
>>eswat+(OP)
IANAFinancialInvestigator, but skimming through it sounds like:

1. Fraudulent applicants come to the bank with crazy stories to ask for enormous loans/mortgages toward a Toronto house, allegedly to turn hyper-suspicious big piles of cash into a more reputable-looking asset.

2. HSBC goes along with that because they want to suckle on the sweet regular payments of suspicious cash, even though they ought to damn well know that these customers are just a front for an organized crime ring.

3. As a bonus, this locally-concentrated money-laundering/speculative-investment thing screws up the property market for Torontonians. The local multimillionaire babysitter is willing to buy at almost any price because their secret financial goals are very different than yours.

While looking for other articles, I notice it's been ~16 months after the end of HSBC 10-year tangle with US regulators over their business with Mexican and Columbian drug cartels. [0]

[0] https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/us-fed-terminates-e...

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2. seanmc+Y9[view] [source] 2024-02-06 18:32:13
>>Terr_+z4
A lot of it doesn’t even sound like money laundering, just fraud. You say you have a job paying you lots of money from China, verification is loose, you get the loans, and then try to make mortgage payments via Airbnb. The risk is mostly with the bank, and if it doesn’t blow up you make all the money.
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3. Terr_+lc[view] [source] 2024-02-06 18:40:55
>>seanmc+Y9
While that may happen too, the article alleges the mortgage payments are being made with funds wired from China.

If the borrowers are making the mortgage via rent/Airbnb of the properties... then they are somehow keeping it secret within Canada and also sending it on an international round-trip, which seems like a strange stretch for any small-time "lie on the loan application" crook.

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4. seanmc+ge[view] [source] 2024-02-06 18:47:56
>>Terr_+lc
The article states more cases than that. One of the examples the mortgage payments aren’t being made via Chinese wires, they are being paid locally and the Chinese income doesn’t exist at all.

They could be making round trips with Chinese banks but I don’t see why. You can transfer funds from China into your account before your monthly mortgage was due, the mortgage provider would never know. You can also put dollars into a Chinese bank account and do wires in demand, since it isn’t R!B there are no controls on it.

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