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1. dang+Bh[view] [source] 2024-02-02 17:39:48
>>Robin8+(OP)
I don't have a problem with users building things like this because the principles by which HN works are all easy enough to explain and defend—just remember that anything this complex is inevitably a mess, so you need to have high tolerance for messiness if you want to understand it accurately.

However, it's important to correct inaccuracies like the one mentioned here: >>39231537 . Robin89, can you please fix the text? I know it was just a mistaken good-faith assumption but it's super wrong.

Also, it would make it easier for me to respond to the questions here if you'd link the HN IDs on your page to the actual HN threads. Currently they link to social-protocols.org. Obviously you can link to whatever you want but I'm having trouble tracing the questions here. Everyone has their own list of "what happened to story X, Y, Z, and what about W and V and J too" and while I'm happy to answer all those in principle, there are physical limits on how many I can work through.

I'm going to be in meetings for most of the next few hours but I'll try to answer questions in this thread later, assuming I don't drown in it.

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2. falsan+D01[view] [source] 2024-02-02 21:06:35
>>dang+Bh
There are several low-point, long-lived but highly ranked unnatural posts on the top page that appear to be manipulated. Such unnaturalness and opacity make users feel that the ranking is arbitrary and unfair, even if for good reasons. Can you display the manipulation that has been done on the ranking and other lists per post? For example, a reset of the submission time should be easily displayed.
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3. Jun8+gd1[view] [source] 2024-02-02 22:15:46
>>falsan+D01
I use the downvote button for two reasons: overwhelmingly for rude, come-uppance, and similar type of comments; very rarely for comments spreading FUD for no particular reason. I just downvoted your comment for the second reason.

Demanding transparency is fine but you’ve got to provide proof with your claims. If there are stories which feel manipulated to you link them and let the audience see, maybe you’re right.

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4. falsan+Zf1[view] [source] 2024-02-02 22:31:35
>>Jun8+gd1
Dang explained here that it could happen.
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5. Jun8+yh1[view] [source] 2024-02-02 22:41:32
>>falsan+Zf1
I’m not saying you’re wrong I.e. manipulation probably does happen, my prior=0.4 bec. it happens inmost platforms so why not here (0.5) but AFAIk HN has strong anti manipulation tools&practices in places (-0.1). Show me examples so I can update my mental model.
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