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>>Robin8+(OP)
I don't have a problem with users building things like this because the principles by which HN works are all easy enough to explain and defend—just remember that anything this complex is inevitably a mess, so you need to have high tolerance for messiness if you want to understand it accurately.

However, it's important to correct inaccuracies like the one mentioned here: >>39231537 . Robin89, can you please fix the text? I know it was just a mistaken good-faith assumption but it's super wrong.

Also, it would make it easier for me to respond to the questions here if you'd link the HN IDs on your page to the actual HN threads. Currently they link to social-protocols.org. Obviously you can link to whatever you want but I'm having trouble tracing the questions here. Everyone has their own list of "what happened to story X, Y, Z, and what about W and V and J too" and while I'm happy to answer all those in principle, there are physical limits on how many I can work through.

I'm going to be in meetings for most of the next few hours but I'll try to answer questions in this thread later, assuming I don't drown in it.

>>dang+Bh
> Robin89, can you please fix the text? know that was just a mistaken good-faith assumption but it's super wrong.

How can he/we verify it's wrong? The down-weighting you describe is not visible to users. Even OP won't know.

You can say that down-weighting happens, but we're asking to see where down-weighting happens.

>>rhaksw+iw
Wtf are you talking about? He’s literally telling us and has mentioned in the community many times that flagging quickly crushes a story.

I’ve seen it happen when I’ve flagged stories so either there is a vast conspiracy of moderators that receive pages when I flag things so they can downrank… or maybe dang isn’t lying about something that should be super obvious as a community self policing mechanism.

>>kortil+rB
> Wtf are you talking about? He’s literally telling us and has mentioned in the community many times that flagging quickly crushes a story.

It's discussed in the link, and elsewhere [1]. Some mod actions on HN are transparent, some are not. You should not assume that, just because you see marks of some form of moderation, that you can see them all.

Undisclosed content moderation is like directly modifying your production database. It's faster, but always more troublesome. Nobody else knows what changed or why, etc.

[1] >>36435312

>>rhaksw+iC
If you want a site with a public mod log, there's Lobsters. If you want a site with a mod log that's cryptographically auditable by users, I'm sure blockchainia has something on offer. You're not going to get either of those things here, for reasons the community has dug into in the past and you can surface with the search bar.

>>tptace+kJ
I support transparent-to-the-author content moderation, and I suspect that is in the future for today's major platforms, whether they want it or not.

>>rhaksw+VK
Sure, that could happen. And if it does, it will happen by way of people leaving sites like this one for sites moderated differently. I think we're all OK with letting the market decide.

>>tptace+QM
I would prefer if the market decides, but there are a few non-trivial court cases coming up that may influence what happens.

[1] https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/...

[2] https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/...

[3] https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/...