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1. next_x+w6[view] [source] 2024-02-02 16:50:18
>>Robin8+(OP)
Don’t the vast majority of these get removed via flags from users?

Edit: I’m not asking a rhetorical question. There are a lot of comments in this thread thanking “the mods” and I didn’t realize there was a mod team cultivating the front page. Can anyone attest to this?

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2. lolind+4g[view] [source] 2024-02-02 17:33:38
>>next_x+w6
This is accurate, per dang's comment on the Gary Tan thread the other day:

> We didn't flag the post; users did. When it comes to submissions, that's nearly always the case - see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html.

>>39169622

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3. mandma+Jq[view] [source] 2024-02-02 18:19:36
>>lolind+4g
There are stories on this list that deserved to be seen, were popular, were important, and were not in fact dumpster fires in the comments - but a particular crowd with a particular bias decided to flag them.

Example 1: https://news.social-protocols.org/stats?id=39142094

Example 2: https://news.social-protocols.org/stats?id=39130652

Example 3: https://news.social-protocols.org/stats?id=39214844

Does this crowd think it's cool and normal that all discussion of the ICJ's decision - truly momentous - were completely removed, based on the opinion of a dedicated minority?

US tech giants are heavily implicated in this, so no one can seriously argue the topic isn't relevant. A World War could come from these "plausibly genocidal" actions, which are enabled in various ways by US tech giants.

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4. Symbio+zu[view] [source] 2024-02-02 18:37:17
>>mandma+Jq
None of the is on-topic for HN.

The initial invasion was allowed due to the international significance, but to discuss subsequent events head to Reddit.

This is in the FAQ linked in the footer.

Something novel with drones or new medicine or similar will be on topic.

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5. mandma+PC[view] [source] 2024-02-02 19:17:15
>>Symbio+zu
The ICJ is the world's highest court, and genocide cases are very rare. Their verdict, without any question, has "international significance". It's by far the most significant development in months.

From the submission guidelines:

> On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting.

People here were clearly finding those stories interesting, as measured by upvotes and comments.

> If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

US mainstream TV mostly declined to air South Africa's side of the case, as well as the actual verdict; opting instead to only air Israel's defense.

> Something novel with drones or new medicine or similar will be on topic.

"Something with drones" = on topic, but a plausible genocide verdict from the ICJ is not of "international significance" and therefore off topic... This isn't computing for me, sorry.

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6. boombo+oG[view] [source] 2024-02-02 19:38:09
>>mandma+PC
>ICJ is the world's highest court, and genocide cases are very rare. Their verdict, without any question, has "international significance". It's by far the most significant development in months

The verdict had a thread with over fifteen hundred comments and was on the front page most of the day. Others were presumably down ranked as they were dupes.

>>39143043

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7. mandma+RT[view] [source] 2024-02-02 20:36:19
>>boombo+oG
The linked deleted thread was 90 minutes older than the thread that 'survived'.

Also, it was removed within a minute of hitting the front page (if I'm reading the graphs right). Doesn't quite line up with your presumption.

Any theories on why the Guardian's visual exploration of Gaza's destruction was flagged, despite positive upvotes and comments?

Besides - the point is this: Not all the stories that are in OP's list are spam, or unsuitable. Some topics hit a third rail.

They are easily removed by a small group of users, and then Daniel can come by months later and say, well, users flagged it [ie, 0]. It even happens to PG [1]. This isn't ideal, and pretending it isn't happening is uncool.

I'm not saying Dang doesn't do a great job. But there are some topics that are verboten, despite their impact/relevance on the tech community and our general interest. And this particular topic is too important to allow for such narrative control by a tiny group of flaggers.

0 - >>38311933

1 - >>38144931

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8. boombo+rX[view] [source] 2024-02-02 20:51:46
>>mandma+RT
>Doesn't quite line up with your presumption.

Presumably users flagged both posts almost immediately, and by the time mods decided that the topic was worth discussion the second thread had more engagement. The first thread was still a dupe despite being posted earlier.

>Any theories on why the Guardian's visual exploration of Gaza's destruction was flagged, despite positive upvotes and comments?

While the verdict was a major event like you said, The Guardian's story was not. Users flagged it, like all posts on the topic, and the mods decided it was not different enough from previous discussions to justify a new flame war.

The ongoing wars are topics worthy of discussions, and they get discussed here. They don't need daily discussions. If you want daily discussions, there are plenty of places you can go to do that.

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