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1. tempes+EM[view] [source] 2024-02-02 09:22:28
>>Strato+(OP)
I'm a little bit aghast at all the comments saying this is normal or no big deal. Maybe it is normal (or at least common), but it shouldn't be. If you believe it's no big deal, I can't agree. I can see this kind of behaviour from adolescents, but adults should understand that words are meaningful and have consequences, and that even if you disagree with someone, they're still a human being who deserves some modicum of respect, or at least decency. Wishing a slow death on someone, even rhetorically, shows neither, to put it mildly.
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2. tedk-4+pO[view] [source] 2024-02-02 09:44:35
>>tempes+EM
He's paraphrased 2pac is his alcohol fuelled moment

"Fuck Mobb Deep, fuck Biggie Fuck Bad Boy as a staff, record label and as a motherfuckin' crew And if you want to be down with Bad Bo, then fuck you too Chino XL, fuck you too All you motherfuckers, fuck you too (take money, take money) All of y'all motherfuckers, fuck you, die slow, motherfucker"

It's immature and poor judgement but he's apologised for it so I don't think it's fair to drag him down.

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3. little+RQ[view] [source] 2024-02-02 10:09:25
>>tedk-4+pO
> It's immature and poor judgement

Which is enough to make him unfit for the position at YC and justifies his resignation.

Walmart cashiers are being fired everyday for things like immaturity and poor judgment, why should YC CEO be held under lower behavior standards than blue collar workers?!

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4. dspill+sS[view] [source] 2024-02-02 10:27:20
>>little+RQ
To put it in a bit more context: this was out-of-hours, and those Walmart cashiers shouldn't be sacked for immaturity and poor judgement in their personal lives if their work is life is up to scratch.

I know it is more complicated than that when your actions have wider reach, especially for someone as high up as a CEO, but for all of us these days with ubiquitous social media potentially giving us all more reach, as what you do in your off-time can negatively impact the company, and your position can lead to your stupid moments having far more impact on people generally.

Even a grade A class 1 drunken cockup, in personal time, shouldn't result in a firing unless it is part of a larger or repeating pattern.

IMO: he has taken ownership of his actions, accepted that they were stupid, apologies for causing office (and not in the “sorry you found it offensive” non-apology sort of way), etc, so : ridicule him by all means, but sacking seems OTT at this point. And if he does it, or something else similarly foolish, again, then we break out the pitchforks.

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5. little+4T[view] [source] 2024-02-02 10:34:45
>>dspill+sS
> this was out-of-hours

There's no out-of-hours for CEO. He was using is official Twitter account to make a public statement, that's a work-related mistake. (It's not like he used some anonymous account to troll on some subreddit)

> Walmart cashiers shouldn't be sacked for immaturity and poor judgement in their personal lives if their work is life is up to scratch.

I don't know if they should, but they definitely are. Musk's obsession with his employees drug use out of work is an example (and also an example of double standards between CEOs and blue collar workers).

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6. dspill+AW[view] [source] 2024-02-02 11:12:55
>>little+4T
> There's no out-of-hours for CEO.

Unless his contract specifically says that, bull.

If his contract foes specifically say that, then I doubt it is legally enforceable anyway.

> He was using is official Twitter account to make a public statement, that's a work-related mistake.

If he used an official work account, then yes that paints a different picture and is a more clear-cut case of abusing resources and directly bringing the company into disrepute. But @GarryTan doesn't sound like a company account to me (I'm assuming the 陈嘉兴 in the account display name “Garry Tan 陈嘉兴” is also personal name information, not company affiliation, please correct me if I'm wrong).

> I don't know if they should, but they definitely are.

Calling for the bad side of a double-standard to apply to all is not the way I'd choose to fix the situation.

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Of course the people threatened by the ill-advised quotes, which might indicate overly string views, are well within their rights to pursue legal action against as they see fit, but at this point I'd say it isn't a sacking matter for the company.

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7. thesha+fE1[view] [source] 2024-02-02 15:58:47
>>dspill+AW
He’s right. Source: was executive, CEO adjacent, and id still have been let go for such behaviour. At that level, you’re a very different representation of the org and you’re held to a higher standard in such cases where your actions regardless of when or where they took place reflect upon the org.
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