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>>thunde+(OP)
Japan is insane on the paperwork front. The amount of stuff my wife has to deal with (because my Japanese is frankly terrible) for basic processes is mind numbing. Things like having to write out your address and contact info on five different forms for one appointment, visiting multiple offices to submit paperwork in for the same process, etc.. Moving apartments (heaven forbid it is to a different city government) involves weeks of straight up administrative work from one person in the household.

>>Tagano+b6
>Japan is insane on the paperwork front.

Worse than Germany?

>>Firmwa+G6
What legal battles do you have to fight, to move apartements?

I remember, I had to file one paper from the landlord and my ID and that was it. Took 5 minutes.

>>lukan+I7
I think you just need the Wohnungsgeberbestätigung from the landlord and fill the registration paperwork at the Bürgeramt (which, depending on your city, might be a bit hard to get an appointment), you might also need to take care of the TV bill stuff.

While not awful, comparing to Portugal, where I just need to register in a website an then wait to get a confirmation code by mail, it feels like going back to the stone age.

>>JD557+j9
Why do you need to "register" your address? Why do you need any of this?

I've found that's the question to ask with paperwork.

For instance, France is also extremely bad regarding paperwork and administrative red tape and people are so used to it that many can't imagine that many of it is not actually needed for society to function. I noticed when I moved to the UK: Suddenly all that was absolutely necessary to protect civilisation and the Republic (I only exaggerate a little bit) did not even exist and everything still ran smoothly.

Telling example: During the Covid lockdowns, the French administration decided that people had to fill and sign an official form to keep on them every time they left home. Basically "I swear that I am only doing my daily excercise. Date, signature" to be shown to any police officer who might ask, or "zut alors" you're nicked.

>>mytail+kb
Compared to the UK where you need to have some utility bills or bank statements as proof of an address, having an ID card with an address is a lot easier in practice.

But, yes, different societies have different approaches there and they are kind of designed around it.

>>Random+jh
> Compared to the UK where you need to have some utility bills or bank statements as proof of an address, having an ID card with an address is a lot easier in practice.

Well, no.

You already have bills in your name, so there is nothing to do.

On the other hand, regarding ID cards (in France): First there is no obligation to keep the address on it up-to-date (so why is there even an address on it?). Second, if you do want the address to be up-to-date then you need to follow the administrative procedure to get a new ID card, which involves providing... a proof of address in the form of an utility bill!

>>mytail+Uk
So France is different from Germany where you can get the address updated and you are supposed to do that. And proof of address is not a utility bill there, but either a form from your landlord or land register.