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1. declan+fk[view] [source] 2024-01-27 18:24:31
>>onnnon+(OP)
Weird. I used to worry about climate change and now I don’t. I guess the world has a way of finding its equilibrium.

I do however worry about the accidental introduction of invasive species and diseases, which seems to be accelerating (see: citrus greening disease).

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2. johnea+vO[view] [source] 2024-01-27 21:43:01
>>declan+fk
> Weird. I used to worry about climate change and now I don’t.

That's funny! I was going to start my post with the exact same sentence!

But for a totally different reason: I'm now convinced that there is no stopping the massive destruction of the natural environemnt. A much MUCH bigger problem than that of the climate alone.

I'm not a "doomer", I'm a "realist". It's clear at this point that the world's ownership class is NOT going to allow any significant mitigation of petroleum use.

The situation will continue unabated until all of the worst predictions, and many more not foreseen, come to bear.

So, I've learned to take this in stride, like with gun ownership: most gun deaths in the US are suicide. As more and more gun owners shoot themselves, this is the only mitigation to this crisis.

This will be the same for industrial distruction of our environment, including the climate. The only way it's going to mitigate is when the natural consequences come to bear and destroy a good part of the world population.

Of course, there's always "citrus greening disease" to worry about 8-)

The excuses people are willing to tell themselves will prevent any meaningful responce to the crisis... Thus, the natural consequences will occur...

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3. Joeri+rK1[view] [source] 2024-01-28 08:57:40
>>johnea+vO
It's clear at this point that the world's ownership class is NOT going to allow any significant mitigation of petroleum use.

The problem is not use, the problem is extraction. If it comes out of the ground, it gets used, and mostly ends up in the atmosphere. The volume of extracted fossil fuels is carefully managed so that prices remain low enough to prevent green alternatives from winning in the market, and high enough to maximize long term revenue. If extraction would decline, fossil fuel prices would rise, and the market would automatically rebalance into a green transition.

Really the only thing politicians need to do is put in place a global and declining cap on fossil fuel extraction. Wells need to be capped even when they’re not empty. There should be zero new drilling. You can tell the honest intentions of a politician on climate change by their policies on fossil fuel extraction.

And this means ultimately it is a political problem, not an individual problem, and can be fixed through the voting booth. But that requires people to consider this the most important problem, and they don’t. So ultimately, the reason things don’t change is not some cabal, but just plain people not prioritizing it in the voting booth.

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4. global+7O1[view] [source] 2024-01-28 09:34:08
>>Joeri+rK1
some sanity for a change. you wont get very far with that but its refreshing to see.
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5. quickt+NZ1[view] [source] 2024-01-28 11:36:43
>>global+7O1
what if a barrel of oil becomes the new engagement gift?
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