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1. asylte+ma3[view] [source] 2024-01-19 16:13:08
>>linker+(OP)
I’m really worried this will become common practice. We MUST fight against this otherwise they will take away open source from us. Making an integration to work with devices you own is NOT ILLEGAL. I’m happy to contribute to a qualified and trustworthy gofundme to protect devs. I myself have a few integrations I made and would refuse to take them down. Granted, I intentionally don’t use any “cloud” api garbage.
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2. superg+Rr3[view] [source] 2024-01-19 17:28:49
>>asylte+ma3
Haier (at least this product in the EU) doesn't have a published/public API.

The code in question scraped the API off of app/device traffic.

Also, Home Assistant is a locally focused platform, and when it uses cloud APIs it creates HUGE amounts of traffic for the amount of users that use it.

Source: I run a developer program for a different IoT company

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3. beeboo+fD3[view] [source] 2024-01-19 18:09:28
>>superg+Rr3
Design a better api, bud. If you can't deal with all of your users using the product you sold them, the product you made is trash and your users deserve a refund.

Or, crazy idea, just let users use their devices locally. You won't even have to get your shit together and fix your api then!

Now also just design an official home assistant module and you've turned this drama into community goodwill.

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4. superg+1K3[view] [source] 2024-01-19 18:43:09
>>beeboo+fD3
> Design a better api, bud. If you can't deal with all of your users using the product you sold them, the product you made is trash and your users deserve a refund.

If 3k home assistant users take up as much traffic as say... 50% of my total population we're just supposed to accept that cost in perpetuity?

> Or, crazy idea, just let users use their devices locally. You won't even have to get your shit together and fix your api then

I advocate for local access internally (to be clear, I don't work for Haier). But I'm here to discuss things I have sphere of influence over as well.

> Now also just design an official home assistant module and you've turned this drama into community goodwill.

That, again, costs money/people/time that can be spent doing things that keep us all getting paid.

All this said, we have lots of API keys in our systems issued that are used in HA, and they DO take up lots of traffic. I sort of let it go because of exactly this (it creates a lot of noise to shut it off for little benefit).

Again, I also agree we should all offer local interfaces, but that's an uphill cybersecurity battle (lots of reasons, some of them not great)

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