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>>linker+(OP)
Scratches Haier off list of household vendors.

I use HomeKit so this probably doesn’t directly affect me at all. But if I stop using HomeKit, I can and will do as I see fit to make the gear I already own work with whatever I’ve switched to. If adversarial companies want to stop people from doing that, then I’ll help them in that mission by not bringing their stuff into my house in the first place.

>>kstrau+ug3
Scratch off everything that requires internet access (in this case the Home Assistant integration talked to the vendor's API servers).

See also previous discussion on >>39044932

>>mook+5i3
curious, is there a vendor that isn't "cloud-first" today? I've never seen an appliance that doesn't call home

>>Dyslex+0k3
The one that frustrates me the most is Home Depot's HubSpace. You do not have to link the devices to the router. They can be operated by Bluetooth.

However, the app to control them cannot work without a connection to the server. It has no local device functions at all. It won't even launch if their servers are offline.

That's just next-level stupid to me. Why build in a useless option? If Bluetooth won't work without a server connection anyway, what's the point?

>>smeej+wl3
At some point a team of developers fought for local control. They lost but it's too expensive to rip out again. So management chooses to sweep it under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist. Stalking your users is so much more profitable.