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1. Mostly+tc[view] [source] 2024-01-18 18:36:26
>>linker+(OP)
Per the one tweet in the article that says they only bought one of these appliances because of the HA plugin: the lesson is don't buy smart devices that have cloud control. Whether or not they have local automation plugins (like HA), or just that have apps/cloud services, expecting those capabilities to remain for the life of the device is a fool's errand. We have a host of examples of cloud services being killed and open integrations getting taken down, and none of the examples where this hasn't happened have existed long enough for us to say anything besides "so far".

If you want smart functionality, it had better run entirely locally, or else you should not care about or depend on that functionality.

-edit- I also had to learn this lesson (somewhat) painfully. I chose the EVSE that I did for 2 reasons: it was on the list of devices my power company would help pay for and it had an HA integration. less than 6 months after I bought it, the company killed the API that the HA integration relied on.

Luckily for me, the HA integration wasn't that big of a deal, more of "nice to have", but I learned my lesson to never use non-local cloud functionality as a selling point.

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2. Tomte+Uc[view] [source] 2024-01-18 18:38:07
>>Mostly+tc
Philips Hue did run locally, and now they are rolling out updates where a cloud account is required.
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3. vosper+mA[view] [source] 2024-01-18 20:26:47
>>Tomte+Uc
And I don't know if it's just me, but responsiveness seems worse in recent months (using iOS app, don't know if it's the app or the bulbs or the hub). And sometimes the app is out of sync with the actual light states. I haven't seen this in years of using Hue bulbs and app.

Plus finding I'm logged out and having to log back in when I just want to turn a light on/off in the middle of the night (because baby) is a PITA.

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4. jprete+HD[view] [source] 2024-01-18 20:42:04
>>vosper+mA
I haven't had Hue login troubles, but the quality of the light control has gone down a bit. If I tell it to turn the lights to the fireplace mode, that gets turned into multiple instructions to the light bulbs, but sometimes it drops some of them for no reason. So I get half-brightness daylight-white instead.
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5. vosper+Da1[view] [source] 2024-01-18 23:28:25
>>jprete+HD
Yeah that sounds about right, too. Sometimes I move the slider and it doesn't adjust. Sometimes the slider is in one place and jumps to another without me touching it. Not often, but I'm pretty sure it never used to happen.

I'm probably going to ditch Hue in favour of smart switches and dumb bulbs in my next house, so not too worried about it.

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