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>>ssgodd+(OP)
I hope this results in Fair Use being expanded to cover AI training. This is way more important to humanity's future than any single media outlet. If the NYT goes under, a dozen similar outlets can replace them overnight. If we lose AI to stupid IP battles in its infancy, we end up handicapping probably the single most important development in human history just to protect some ancient newspaper. Then another country is going to do it anyway, and still the NYT is going to get eaten.

>>solard+Aj
> if NYT goes under a dozen similar outlets can replace them overnight

Not when there’s no money in journalism because the generative AIs immediately steal all content. If nyt goes under no one will be willing to start a news business as everyone will see it’s a money loser.

>>HDThor+Cu
How does AI compete with journalism? AI doesn't do investigative reporting, AI can't even observe the world or send out reporters.

Which part of journalism is AI going to impact most? Opinion pieces that contain no new information? Summarizing past events?

>>insani+FA
AI certainly isn’t a replacement for journalism, but that doesn’t mean journalism will continue to exist if no one pays for it. If everyone gets their news from chatGPT or the like there will be no investigative reporting. We’re already beginning to see this with most people reading the google/Facebook blurbs instead of clicking the link and giving ad money let alone paying.

>>HDThor+9h1
> If everyone gets their news from chatGPT

But I've just explained that ChatGPT can't actually produce news articles. I can't ask ChatGPT what happened today, and if I could it would be because a journalist went out and told ChatGPT what happened.

>>insani+Di2
So at first ChatGPT will copy journalists. Then journalists will stop working because nobody pays them. Then there will be no news. Some people may look at that situation and decide to start a new news business but that business will fail because ChatGPT will immediately rip it off. The end game is just no news other than volunteers.

>>HDThor+w03
> So at first ChatGPT will copy journalists.

You still literally have not explained how this works. ChatGPT could write a news article, but it's not going to actively discover new social phenomena or interview people on the street. Niche journalism will continue having demand for the sole reason that AI can't reliably surface new and interesting content.

So... again, how does a pre-trained transformer model scoop a journalist's investigation?

> Then journalists will stop working because nobody pays them.

How is that any different than the status-quo on the internet? The cost of quality information has been declining long before AI existed. Thousands of news publications have gone out of business or been bought out since the dawn of the internet, before ChatGPT was even a household name. Since you haven't really identified what makes AI unique in this situation, it feels like you're conflating the general declining demand for journalism with AI FOMO.