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1. dissid+B6[view] [source] 2023-12-27 14:41:17
>>ssgodd+(OP)
Even if they win against openAI, how would this prevent something like a Chinese or Russian LLM from “stealing” their content and making their own superior LLM that isnt weakened by regulation like the ones in the United States.

And I say this as someone that is extremely bothered by how easily mass amounts of open content can just be vacuumed up into a training set with reckless abandon and there isn’t much you can do other than put everything you create behind some kind of authentication wall but even then it’s only a matter of time until it leaks anyway.

Pandora’s box is really open, we need to figure out how to live in a world with these systems because it’s an un winnable arms race where only bad actors will benefit from everyone else being neutered by regulation. Especially with the massive pace of open source innovation in this space.

We’re in a “mutually assured destruction” situation now, but instead of bombs the weapon is information.

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2. cush+ha[view] [source] 2023-12-27 15:00:45
>>dissid+B6
I see a complete economic collapse unless creators start getting paid both for their data upfront, and paid royalties when their data is used in an LLM response
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3. amanap+Sf[view] [source] 2023-12-27 15:31:54
>>cush+ha
Copyright doesn’t protect data, it only protects expression.
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4. cush+jB[view] [source] 2023-12-27 17:31:13
>>amanap+Sf
While I didn't say anything about copyright (obviously our current copyright laws are completely ill-equipped to handle how LLMs work), feel free to replace data with whatever you like. writing, art, music, etc. It's all the same.
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