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>>ssgodd+(OP)
I hope this results in Fair Use being expanded to cover AI training. This is way more important to humanity's future than any single media outlet. If the NYT goes under, a dozen similar outlets can replace them overnight. If we lose AI to stupid IP battles in its infancy, we end up handicapping probably the single most important development in human history just to protect some ancient newspaper. Then another country is going to do it anyway, and still the NYT is going to get eaten.

>>solard+Aj
Which dozen outlets can replace the New York Times overnight? I will stipulate that the NYT isn’t worthy of historic preservation if it’s become obsolete — but which dozen outlets can replace it?

Wouldn’t those dozen outlets suffer the same harms of producing original content, costing time and talent, and while having a significant portion of the benefit accruing to downstream AI companies?

If most of the benefit of producing original content accrues to the AI firms, won’t original content stop being produced?

If original content stops being produced, how will AI models get better in the future?

>>jonste+In
Just pick the top 12 articles/publishers out of a month of Google News, doesn't really matter. Most readers probably can't tell them apart anyway.

Yes, all those outlets will suffer the same harms. They have been for decades. That's why there's so few remaining. Most are consolidated and produce worthless drivel now. Their business model doesn't really work in the modern era.

Thankfully, people have and will continue to produce content even if much of it gets stolen -- as has happened for decades, if not millennia, before AI.

If anything what we need is a better way to fund human creative endeavors not dependent on pay-per-view. That's got nothing to do with AI; AI just speeds up a process of decay that has been going on forever.