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1. Aurorn+84[view] [source] 2023-12-27 14:26:49
>>ssgodd+(OP)
The arguments about being able to mimic New York Times “style” are weak, but the fact that they got it to emit verbatim NY Times content seems bad for OpenAI:

> As outlined in the lawsuit, the Times alleges OpenAI and Microsoft’s large language models (LLMs), which power ChatGPT and Copilot, “can generate output that recites Times content verbatim

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2. dwring+E5[view] [source] 2023-12-27 14:35:36
>>Aurorn+84
I'm not sure if the verbatim content isn't more of a "stopped clock is right twice a day" or "monkeys typewriting shakespeare" situation. As I see it, most of the value in something like the NYT is as a trusted and curated source of information with at least some vetting. The content regurgitated from an LLM would be intermixed with false information and all sorts of other things, none of which are actually news from a trusted source - the main reason people subscribe to the NYT (?) and something at which ChatGPT cannot directly compete against NYT writers.
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3. c22+Nl[view] [source] 2023-12-27 16:05:48
>>dwring+E5
I don't understand this argument. You seem to be implying that I could freely copy and distribute other people's works without commiting copyright infringement as long as I make the resulting product somehow less compelling than the original? (Maybe I print it in a hard-to-read typeface or smear some feces on the copy.)

I have seen low fidelity copies of motion pictures recorded by a handheld camera in a theater that I'm pretty sure most would qualify as infringing. The copied product is no doubt inferior, but still competes on price and convenience.

If someone does not wish to pay to read the New York Times then perhaps accepting the risk of non-perfect copies made by a LLM is an acceptable trade off for them to save a dime.

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