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1. Aurorn+84[view] [source] 2023-12-27 14:26:49
>>ssgodd+(OP)
The arguments about being able to mimic New York Times “style” are weak, but the fact that they got it to emit verbatim NY Times content seems bad for OpenAI:

> As outlined in the lawsuit, the Times alleges OpenAI and Microsoft’s large language models (LLMs), which power ChatGPT and Copilot, “can generate output that recites Times content verbatim

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2. fallin+07[view] [source] 2023-12-27 14:43:28
>>Aurorn+84
I can get a printer to emit verbatim NYT content, and with a lot less effort than getting it out of an LLM. I find this capability of infringement equals infringement argument incredibly weak.
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3. mrkeen+x7[view] [source] 2023-12-27 14:46:45
>>fallin+07
Try selling subscriptions to your print-outs.
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4. jncfhn+b8[view] [source] 2023-12-27 14:49:54
>>mrkeen+x7
The equivalent analogy here is selling subscriptions to the printer, not the specific copyright infringing printout.
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5. mrkeen+Ia[view] [source] 2023-12-27 15:03:21
>>jncfhn+b8
I disagree. A printer is too neutral - it's just a tool, like roads or the internet. Third parties can use them to commit copyright infringement, but that doesn't (or shouldn't) reflect on the seller of the tool.

I propose it's more like selling a music player that comes preloaded with (remixes of) recording artists' songs.

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