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1. jdross+15[view] [source] 2023-12-08 19:20:04
>>anigbr+(OP)
Pro-Palestinian views outrank Pro-Israeli online by around 36 to 1 on TikTok and 8 to 1 on other online platforms. https://twitter.com/antgoldbloom/status/1721561226151612602

If anything the skew within the platforms is to prioritize pro-palestinian views https://twitter.com/committeeonccp/status/173279243496103143...

It also seems like these platforms create (rather than support) anti-Israeli views: https://twitter.com/antgoldbloom/status/1730255552738201854

US views skew pro-israel, and GenZ is closer to 50/50, so if there's something going on online, it's not in favor of Israel.

It's probably relevant that there are 1 billion Muslims to 16 million Jews, and that the largest relevant population of pro-Israeli internationals is India and Indian Hindus, and they are not on TikTok (blocked in India).

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2. sertbd+bg[view] [source] 2023-12-08 20:15:31
>>jdross+15
> Pro-Palestinian views outrank Pro-Israeli online by around 36 to 1 on TikTok and 8 to 1 on other online platforms.

> If anything the skew within the platforms is to prioritize pro-palestinian views.

That platforms prioritize one over the other is just one possible explanation. An alternative explanation is that more people already have those views. And it's dishonest to present one explanation and omit the other.

Nothing inflames people like injustice.

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3. brails+4q[view] [source] 2023-12-08 20:58:50
>>sertbd+bg
The alternative explanation seems unlikely. I'd think that if it were true, there'd be even one single instance of that having come up in conversation prior to bad graffiti and printed propaganda showing up all over my neighborhood. Getting a glimpse of what people allow themselves to be subjected to on the various platforms seems to indicate it's younger, easily influenced, volatile reactionary people suddenly being inflamed by whatever hot conflict of the day it is; people I wouldn't normally talk to anyway and who wouldn't have any authentic connection with it. The only time it's come up in real life was when I bumped into some Israeli guests at a hostel, and they were talking about what their families were going through and whether they'd have to go back and serve.

It doesn't come up on my Instagram presumably because I had previously unfollowed everyone who posted about whatever other injustice they'd been told to be pissed about, and shockingly I don't feel the need to go and vandalize property to spread the word.

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4. diggin+YD[view] [source] 2023-12-08 22:00:05
>>brails+4q
You've specifically isolated yourself from people who would talk about the issue, so you're not in a position to determine whether or not people have been talking about it. In my social circles, the conversation about injustice in Palestine is over a decade old.
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5. sertbd+KH[view] [source] 2023-12-08 22:18:38
>>diggin+YD
> In my social circles, the conversation about injustice in Palestine is over a decade old.

Indeed, I would say that anyone older than 10 has participated in such conversations. The person you're responding to makes it sound like it's a new thing.

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6. brails+wT1[view] [source] 2023-12-09 08:42:03
>>sertbd+KH
It's clearly not a new thing, and it's clearly something that people should have likely been vaguely aware of for decades, but it's not really important for anyone not directly connected to the conflict, territory, or heritage to be actively concerned with on a moment to moment basis, and it's not something that's ever organically come up, at least beyond acknowledgement that some conflict is always happening. That's not to say it hasn't come up in any circle, but it does seem to be a suspiciously recent topic, and I'd simply argue that people tend to subject themselves to arbitrary issues to be consumed by regardless of the bearing it has their life, and largely influenced by media.

When I had the conversation about it in real life, I expressed sympathy and discussed a few aspects that they informed me of since I hadn't heard about the instigating attack, and then I went on about my life, thankful that my family and nobody I know personally is on either side.

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7. diggin+ux7[view] [source] 2023-12-11 15:53:53
>>brails+wT1
> and it's not something that's ever organically come up, at least beyond acknowledgement that some conflict is always happening

Maybe around you. I probably wouldn't talk about the topic around you if we were in the same circles, because it might feel pointless.

> it does seem to be a suspiciously recent topic

You're right, it's not a coincidence! Recent conversation is driven by the recent killing of 20,000 Palestinian civilians.

> and then I went on about my life

Nothing wrong with that if you don't feel you have nay power to effect change. But it rather seems like you don't even care if it happens or not. However, many people do care and believe they can influence policy through conversation and protest. (Reminder: they can about the ongoing mass murders of civilians, which started recently and is happening at this very moment. It's time-sensitive.)

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