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1. skybri+CG[view] [source] 2023-12-08 22:14:04
>>anigbr+(OP)
Despite all this, as a casual observer, my general impression is Israel has done terribly at making the case for war, and specifically the kind of war their military seems to be carrying out.

The most relevant comparison seems to be with the Russians. Russia has no credibility in the West and Israel is rapidly losing any they had, at least with younger people. My general impression is of a Russian-level intensity of destruction, too.

But perhaps these impressions are wrong. I would normally assume the Israelis aren’t complete idiots. I’d like to read a “steelman” case for this military campaign, if anyone knows of one. Why are these impressions misleading? What’s really going on?

(Yes, a major difference is that this is a counter-attack, but beyond that?)

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2. aprilt+MH[view] [source] 2023-12-08 22:18:44
>>skybri+CG
You will be made quite miserable if you find what you seek. The Israeli politicians basically see Gaza as a "problem" population which they cannot deal with and which is hampering their national goals. And it's shockingly and ironically similar to how Jewish people were looked at in another time and another place by another leader
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3. burner+Xl1[view] [source] 2023-12-09 02:32:24
>>aprilt+MH
I like how you put "problem" in quotes as if Palestine does not regularly shoot unguided missiles at Israel with the goal of killing civilians.

Maybe you need a quick history refresher but the Jews were not doing that in 1930s Germany.

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