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1. jdross+15[view] [source] 2023-12-08 19:20:04
>>anigbr+(OP)
Pro-Palestinian views outrank Pro-Israeli online by around 36 to 1 on TikTok and 8 to 1 on other online platforms. https://twitter.com/antgoldbloom/status/1721561226151612602

If anything the skew within the platforms is to prioritize pro-palestinian views https://twitter.com/committeeonccp/status/173279243496103143...

It also seems like these platforms create (rather than support) anti-Israeli views: https://twitter.com/antgoldbloom/status/1730255552738201854

US views skew pro-israel, and GenZ is closer to 50/50, so if there's something going on online, it's not in favor of Israel.

It's probably relevant that there are 1 billion Muslims to 16 million Jews, and that the largest relevant population of pro-Israeli internationals is India and Indian Hindus, and they are not on TikTok (blocked in India).

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2. sertbd+bg[view] [source] 2023-12-08 20:15:31
>>jdross+15
> Pro-Palestinian views outrank Pro-Israeli online by around 36 to 1 on TikTok and 8 to 1 on other online platforms.

> If anything the skew within the platforms is to prioritize pro-palestinian views.

That platforms prioritize one over the other is just one possible explanation. An alternative explanation is that more people already have those views. And it's dishonest to present one explanation and omit the other.

Nothing inflames people like injustice.

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3. sabarn+Mt[view] [source] 2023-12-08 21:15:51
>>sertbd+bg
There is an ocean of injustice in the world and this one issue causes more anger than many that are equally abhorrent.
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4. Diogen+cx[view] [source] 2023-12-08 21:30:39
>>sabarn+Mt
Right now, there is nowhere else in the world where so many civilians are being killed. Nothing else even comes close. 20k deaths in just two months is a massive death toll for such a short conflict. For comparison, it's more than the civilian death toll in the nearly 2-year-old war in Ukraine.

The other thing is that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been going on for decades, and many people have formed strong opinions on it. The United States is deeply involved in the conflict, as it is Israel's major international backer. There are both Palestinian and Jewish diasporas all around the world that care deeply about the issue. There are many reasons why this conflict captures so many people's attention.

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5. yyyk+xE[view] [source] 2023-12-08 22:03:18
>>Diogen+cx
That's just untrue. Sudan, Yemen and (earlier) Ethiopia had much much more, without even going into Ukraine (nobody should accept the Russian figures) or Syria (death toll exceeding all Israeli-Arab wars combined). Doing a death toll per month analysis is misleading because high intensity can't last very long due to geography alone.
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6. bjourn+9K[view] [source] 2023-12-08 22:30:40
>>yyyk+xE
No, it's true. Roughly 1% of Gaza's pre-war population has already been killed by Israel. 81% has been displaced and over 60% of all buildings have been damaged or destroyed. The amount of destruction Russia was brought upon Ukraine doesn't even come close.
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7. goatlo+371[view] [source] 2023-12-09 00:39:35
>>bjourn+9K
So you're using percentages to make that dubious claim. Because Russia has certainly cause a lot more overall destruction and death. Where do you get the 60% of damaged or destroyed buildings? I've seen 25%.
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8. rendal+691[view] [source] 2023-12-09 00:55:33
>>goatlo+371
There are a lot of people who just credulously cite any statistic when it makes Israel look bad and dismiss anything that mitigates Israeli action as Zionist lies. It's hard to reach these people.
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9. dotanc+nc1[view] [source] 2023-12-09 01:19:38
>>rendal+691

  > It's hard to reach these people.
These people have are narrative-driven, not fact-driven. This is rare to see on HN, but unfortunately very common elsewhere.
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10. rendal+Ne1[view] [source] 2023-12-09 01:38:48
>>dotanc+nc1
I could not finish the OP article. Just pages and pages of special pleading.
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